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Posted by Billy Blagg on 01/19/2010

I'm not sure if it's really au-fait to go quoting yourself but I remember writing some time ago during the Rio / Brown / Redknapp argument that, despite what the popular maxim states, there are not three types of lies – lies, damned lies and statistics – but actually four; lies, damned lies, statistics and football talk.

Despite the protestations that David's Gold and Sullivan represent the return of West Ham United to the steady hand of East Enders, I must admit to receiving the news of the new Gold Standard with just a hint of cynicism. Perhaps I've been around this club too long but anyone who listens to promises of plans to "take the Hammers into the Champions League within seven years" and gets all excited are either naive or just have plain short memories.

Remember someone we affectionately christened Eggy? Am I alone in not wanting this type of talk? OK I know it's the equivalent of a ‘these are beatable' team talk, moments before a 2nd Division club steps out against Manchester United in the FA Cup but we need to reflect before we can make such bold statements.

Obviously there had to be an end to the days of Straumur and CB Holding following the Icelandic collapse, the club was lurching nearer and nearer to disaster and administration and for that reason alone I welcome the new owners, but I'll reserve other judgements for later. OK I'll admit it's probably not the kind of level-headed journalism that you may expect when discussing the buy-out of a club we all love and devote extraordinary amounts of time and money too, but it would be wrong to deny that at West Ham, if anything can go wrong then it probably will.

The Icelandic purchase from our old 'East End hands' certainly ended in tears but anyone who tells you that they foresaw the eventual outcome is either a liar or E.F Schumacher (he was an economist – Google it!) The mess involving the Tevez saga and the Sheffield United court case were both preventable and could have occurred whoever was in charge such was the deceit involved but, in any case, I'd argue the main culprits weren't even Icelandic by birth anyway. Quite why Björgólfur Guðmundsson didn't know what his friend and colleague Eggert Magnusson was doing with his wilful transfer and salary policy will always be a major puzzle but, even so in a parallel world without sub-prime mortgages, we could still have been controlled by a shareholder of one of the World's major banks – at one stage Guðmundsson was reckoned to have a net worth of $1.1 billion dollars – and if you want a club with a rich owner then we could have been in better hands than Manchester United or Liverpool.

CB Holding was a necessary evil to stave off what should have a total disaster – surely if we hadn't been a member of the world's foremost football league we would have been sold off to offset debts or allowed to collapse? – and everything that has happened since from the paucity of the squad to the sale of a top defender to Aston Villa is the result of that. Bad luck doesn't come packaged much better. Really you have to look at the whole Icelandic saga and shrug your shoulders and pull a rueful grin otherwise you'd probably start to cry.

But that spell of foreign ownership is now a thing of the past and we need to look to the future and it is this aspect of West Ham that I have never been able to quite get my head round. I know a lot of fans don't agree with me but I cannot see why West Ham shouldn't benefit financially and otherwise from the fact that the eyes of the world will be on the east side of London in two years time. Some have said that it won't make any difference to West Ham but if doesn't then someone has taken their eye off the ball and missed a major opportunity to raise the profile of the club to a worldwide audience. And when the Olympic flame has been extinguished and the last visitor has checked out there will be a large expanse of prime land that will be available for sport for the local community. It will have superb road and rail links and it will still be in solid east end territory – we're not talking about Milton Keynes here – and to not think about moving the club to the Olympic area and selling the Boleyn to Tesco's is economic madness, in my view.

Before some accuse me of heresy, let's get this straight: I was one of the people who were sent the questionnaire back in the dark days of the ill-fated Bond Scheme asking, amongst other things, if I supported a move away from Upton Park. I said 'No' mired as I was in the fact I was born, lived and went to school within a goal roar of the ground. In the short-term I think my reaction was probably right bearing in mind that some clubs who built new grounds subsequently found huge debt and relegation attaching itself to sides who may have been considered at the time to have been comfortable mid-table First Division outfits, and I'll gladly admit that, if or when the bulldozers rumble down Green Street, I will probably be at the gates swallowing something jagged with a pocketful of Kleenex - but that shouldn't make any difference.

Any businessman who can't see the possibilities of making money out of selling up and moving from a piece of land that isn't really suitable for use anymore and relocating to a purpose-made area a few miles down the road, isn't worth his salt. It's here where we may have struck Gold (sorry but there will be plenty of this in the month's to come and I'm just getting in early) because whatever else you throw at the David's, they know how to build a business empire.

The moot point for most Hammers' fans though is can the new owners' build a football empire? I'm a supporter of Gianfranco Zola and Steve Clarke and I welcome the early statements that indicate that Zola will still have a job, although it is with reserve as the 'if he still wants it' comment suggests that he may have to deal directly with hatchet-woman Karren Brady rather than his Italian mentor Nani. Scott Duxbury may soon find that the town isn't big enough for him and a significant other either but, with most people still scratching their heads over the mooted 'Project' that involves producing kids we've been producing for decades anyway, it's not likely to cause too many Hammers supporters sleep. Instead, the usual message about hanging onto those kids and not selling them to Chelsea for the price of a year's supply of Pukka pies would be more welcome. But Gold's a West Ham fan so it will come because, presumably, he knows it as well as the rest of us.

Reservations exist because of the Gold and Sullivan ownership of Birmingham City. It's easy to revert to clichés and Jasper Carrott style football jokes when discussing Birmingham but you have to remember this is Britain's second city with a huge fan base and the potential for much more, a club that spent most of the years under the previous owners yo-yoing between divisions and becoming something of a soft touch. There may have been immediate returns after relegation and the shareholders may have made money but this is West Ham we are talking about where a portion of the fans think mid-table safety is a failure. I'd argue that, if Birmingham is an example of what we can expect from the two David's, then things are not likely to be much better than they were under Terry Brown and the Cearns.
This being West Ham though we are going to talk again of potential, Bobby Moore, 1966, the Academy, Frank, Rio, Joe and everyone else who has been and gone and say 'if only' so, if only in lip service alone, David Gold will almost certainly indicate we have more to gain and that we are a bigger club (in fact, if he's not made a statement to that effect before this goes on the web then I'll eat my 1963 West Ham bobble hat). I'll grant it is encouraging that Gold and Sullivan have asked for other investors to come forward as it suggests that they know that only big money talks in the Premier League but the trouble is we've had a lot of words over the years; its actions we want now.

In the short term, I assume funds will be released for players for the transfer window as we desperately need cover in some areas or things are going to get worse. I'm confident though that West Ham will pull out of the slump and expect them to eventually climb to safety so it's with half an eye on next season where the promises of Gold and Sullivan will start to formulate for me and it's there where I'm, if not less confident, at least holding my breath.

I don't want empty promises about the Champions League – you don't miss what you never had - I just want a well-run club that plays good football in a packed stadium with a vociferous crowd. I want the TV cameras concentrating on players following in the footsteps of Di Canio, Cottee, McAvennie, Brooking, Hurst and Devonshire not lingering on the withering gaze of Margaret Mountford's replacement. I don't want to see that bloody headline 'Hammer Horrors' again. Nor do I want a day like the one when I saw Glenn Roeder in a hard hat sitting on the rubble of the west stand or that other fateful day when I saw one of the best young defenders in Europe making his debut for a club who were in no better a position than we were. Thanks for the reminder David but I know Bobby Moore was a great player – I saw him play – I don't want to keep getting told what we once had but rather to see the next Moore in a white shirt in the summer and a West Ham one in the winter. I don't want to be the butt of the jokes in an office of glory-seeking 'northerners' and I'd like to look a Spurs supporter in the eye after a cup victory or two and I'd like to see some of our kids still playing for us long after they have an opportunity to grow a beard.

If you can give me that Messrs Gold and Sullivan, then we may have some type of understanding and you'll have my lifelong thanks. But, encouraging press conference aside, you won't mind if I just sit back and see what transpires for a bit, will you? After all, you're real West Ham fans so you know how I feel!

Comments

Posted by Kyle on 01/19/2010

Keeping the homegrown talent instead of selling them at a fraction of their worth will be a good start.

Zola's doing a lot with less, and goal differential suggests they're better than the current standings.

Posted by Trevor Beaumont on 01/19/2010

Bill,
I couldn't agree with you more... I think that goes for most of us as well. A copy to the two David's wouldn't go amiss!

Posted by chance on 01/19/2010

great ending billy, love it :-)

Posted by Nick Moore on 01/19/2010

Sensational post, mirrors my feelings, fears and passions.

Posted by Derek Brown from Down Under on 01/19/2010

God I hope you are right Bill.

Posted by CW on 01/20/2010

Cheers Billy. Now that it is all set in stone, let's hope that the club moves in the right direction. Time will tell if the Gold-Sullivan ownership will bear fruit. Have faith!

Posted by Bobby on 01/20/2010

Just a great and genuine article.

Posted by John on 01/20/2010

Mate I have been a Hammer fan for a long long lonnnng time and everything you have said makes perfecf sence . I just hope to the allmighty that this works the way it should NO more selling our young starlets to bigger clubs ( just dreaming of a team we should of had ) lampard, cole, carrick, ferdinand, defoe and the countless others that have gone to other teams . Im not interested in champions league right now Im just interested in getting 36-40pts to survive. Just 1 question what would the value be of the Boleyn ground and whats the price of the Olympic stadium ?

Cheers mate love ya work
Go Hammers

Blagg says: I'm no property developer - sadly - but discussing it online yesterday I would estimate the Boleyn site to be anything from £70m up. The Olympic Stadium presumably won't be owned by the Hammers but rented, but the area had to be used for the local community for sport so I'm wondering - and I have no way of knowing if this is feasible - if the site could be used for a smaller stadium with hotel, shops etc.

Posted by Tom on 01/20/2010

Regarding the possible move to the Olympic Stadium post 2012, I'm afraid I don't buy that argument, and was particularly put off by Sullivan's claim it was "logic" that it be given to West Ham. Logic would suggest that other sports, particularly Athletics, be given a piece of the sporting pie and have as many tenants forthe Olympic Stadium as possible to maximise it's legacy to UK sport.
In addition to this, the London 2012 commission has already come out to say, since Sullivan's ambitions were made clear, to say that a running track would caregorically remain; would Hammers fans really want a stadium where they were sat a minimum of 50 feet from the pitch? Not withstanding West Ham's inability to fill 80,000 seats on a weekly basis, this would create a terrible atmosphere. I would much prefer the development of the East stand and stay in the atmospheric and fabulous Boleyn.

Blagg: I understand that Tom and can see your points. My belief is the running track issue could be addressed some way and, in any case, I think the site is more important than the actual stadium (see my other replies). I don't think the stadium need stay as an 80k seater but - and this is the crux of the matter - WHU can't develop the Boleyn East Stand as the Council won't let them.

Posted by Homeabroad on 01/20/2010

Yes, the Champions League claim was unfortunate, as it detracted from the sincerity the Davids seem to feel about the club, and their plans for it. And obviously the villain of the piece was the global crisis, as otherwise we would still have the Icelandics in power, and the club would be in a better situation. Or would it? We'll never know, but one thing that does seem true is that Straumur et al had no experience whatsoever of running a football club. And it must have played a part in the dreadful year we've just had. Neither does Tony Fernandes have any such experience, despite the baseball cap and photogenic smile. Intermarket was just a nebulous group of suits. Cellini? Do me a favour! At least the Davids have the necessary experience, and I think they're the least worst option. I hope with all my heart they have the luck to go with their business acumen. In the meantime, and under the circumstances, we have no choice but to have faith in them, do we?

Posted by Homeabroad on 01/20/2010

I ran out of space; I wanted to add that Cellini as a potential buyer looked to me like a real disaster waiting to happen. You can imagine the nightmare unfolding: he flies in with wads of dosh, buys up the club, with broad smiles and big promises all round (through Zola, now with an extra job as his boss's interpreter), but then the FA lodges a complaint about the fact that Cellini owns another club in Italy, and that's against the regulations. Cellini then appeals but loses, so he is forced to sell, but by that time the transfer window has slammed shut, so no-one wants to buy. And to make matters worse, Carlton Cole twists his other knee in training. You see what we've narrowly escaped from, people?

Blagg says: And I thought i had a weird imagination!

Posted by Birlo on 01/20/2010

Billy Blagg's article is a good one but there is nothing to be gained from looking behind us. We have to believe that the new owners will bring some improvements.
I have been a supporter since the day I was born in 1937. My father was at the 1923 cup final. My sons, daughter, and grandchildren are all West Ham.
I have learned, over the years, that whomever owns the club and whomever plays for us, nothing changes. It is as though it is written into Upton Park itself.
Perhaps it will be a good move to the Olympic Stadium, or maybe not. One thing that will always stay the same is us supporters we are truly West Ham 'till we die'.
Up the Irons we shall remain forever blowing bubbles.

Posted by Keith on 01/20/2010

Correct that it is a 'purpose built stadium' but sorry say built for athletics not football.

That is the key argument. Would you really want to see a game with a running track? Maybe it can solved but we have to be careful.

Also would you want to rent it? What if it goes wrong? Where do we go then?

Not easy!

Posted by Angela poe on 01/20/2010

Not sure the Eggy comparison is fair, the Davids DO have 16 years experience and they're up front with supporters... already that's a step up.

hearing him say that it's obvious we need help in the front and the back and we have a wealth of mid-fielders running over each other tells me he's been watching matches and wants to simply keep us in the Prem long enough to develop the hell out of the team, the consortium and the individual players. If they're truly "west ham til they die" as they claim, we just better hope they stay alive through 2012 when we can take over Olympic Stadium.
:)

Posted by Lee on 01/21/2010

Great, great post. I have no delusions that this is the dawn of a great new era. Like you, Billy, I'm just hoping for some much-needed stability and hoping that we can keep at least a few of the great young players we regularly produce. That would be enough for me. Entertaining football and finishes above mid-table (dare we dream of Europa League?) would be nice, but I'll take Premier League stability for now. I'm not too demanding. I don't need to see us play Champions League football, but I'd rather not see us play Championship football.

As for the ground, I understand your argument, but I would really hate to see West Ham abandon the Boleyn. It's not just the ground itself; it's everything that's around it and all the memories supporters have of all that's happened in and around Green Street over the years. Sure, it's sentimentality I'm talking and not business sense, but what could be more West Ham than that?

Blagg says: I know what you mean Lee but I'm not sure that Green Street really retains much romance nowadays.

Posted by Nick on 01/21/2010

Great post mate.

I am confident that they know what the fans want, after all they are fans. They have a great base here with the passion to succeed but also with Karen Brady who will make sure we dont just go on passion but business sense too.

I for one feel we are moving onwards and upwards and can see a harry redknapp style era with top half finishes very soon. You never know maybe even a cup to go with it. After all i have never seen us win one!! And been going for 22 years! and im not counting the inter toto cup as one!

Up the hammers!

Posted by Tony Ferguson on 01/21/2010

Well said Blagg, well said. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm relieved that something has happened, but I ain't sure whether it's any good yet. I'd like to see the club aiming for stability, steady progress in the league, and a serious tilt at both domestic cups every season. Surely it's time we won the lousy League Cup? I'd accept that as the first step toward the Holy Grail. In fact I'd focus on winning that bugger and staying up - for a start.

Posted by Kevin Lyng on 01/21/2010

Hi Billy, A fantastic piece you have written, honest,objective and straight from the heart. Being an Irish Hammers supporter has been great but difficult, great because people that know their football, are always complimentary about my beloved Hammers because of our football parlance, beliefs, history and of course "The Acadamy of Football". Its been difficult because of all the turmoil that has been going on for the last number of years. I rely on the internet for information about all things West Ham where the majority of it is all speculation and rumours that have no substance whatsoever. No more looking back,we must now look forward and hope that we get back to what West Ham is all about and that is playing a brand of football that made this Great Club famous not only here in Ireland but all over the world. I have a sneaky feeling that the future has something special for us, so with patience, our new owners, Ms Brady, GZ and staff, I look forward optimistically. Come on You Irons.

Posted by kimberlnn on 01/21/2010

go hammer go sign a defender Marcelo from real madrid and a midfielder toni kroos from bayer leverkusen

Blagg: errrr...right. I'll make a call now..

Posted by Chris on 01/21/2010

Great stuff Bill, i couldn't agree more. I don't care about the Champions League, I want to see good football in a good environment with the potential for greater things. go hammers

Posted by arthur devlin on 01/21/2010

The article makes alot of sence.But lets concentrate on staying up this year and see what happens to all the promised talk.

Posted by Matt on 01/22/2010

Looking forward to the new ownership, at the very least to put a face on things rather than an Icelandic Holding LLC ('Straumur and CB Holding Out!" has no ring to it). And how about that seven year plan? I think it looks like this:
Year One: stave off relegation.
Year Two: stave off relegation.
Year Three: fifth.
Year Four: stave off relegation
Year Five: tenth, dropped down to 17th after point deduction for dodgy signing (18th? Sheffield United)
Year Six: fourth!
Year Seven: lose Champions League qualifier to some Romanian outfit

As a Yank unfamiliar with the movers and shakers of UK finance, did Mr. Sullivan make his fortune dressing game show hosts? Or does he have some obsession with having clothes that need brushing?

Blagg says: I like you Matt. You sure you're a Yank? You have the cynicism of an UP regular...

Posted by Kimberlnn on 01/23/2010

sign pedro mosquera and marcelo from real madrid i think they will help hammer to avoid relegation...gogogo and i love west ham 4 ever

Blagg: ....well, they said they wanted some investors. Looks like we have an offer here, David!

Posted by Kevan Prior on 01/24/2010

Hi Billy,

You really hit the nail on the head.... could this be Blagg's best blog in recent memory ?

Anyway, as a life-long Hammers fan ,( living on the coast near Rio de Janeiro), I just wanted to say that we should give our full support to Messrs. Gold and Sullivan. We have to remamber that they are 1) Genuine West Ham fans, and 2) Very shrewd and successful businessmen. When they make comments to the press about plans to finish in the top four within 7 years, or that they are willing to pay 100,000 pounds a week to an unknown player, let's remember that those words are not directed to the fans, but instead to potential investors, and to top players who might be attracted to sign up in the next few days.
To have a mission statement or objective of mid-table safety for the next few seasons is not going to attract anyone at this crucial time!
Perhaps with shrewd, self confident new owners, Murphy's Law might just become a thing of the past at Upton Park ?!

Posted by D on 01/26/2010

WHU - lots of great players in the past - Moore, Hurst, Peters, Brooking - but rarely all in form at the same time, to make a great team.

No matter what happens, WHU will maintain an attractive style of football, but will continue to be unsuccessful - in relation to MUFC, Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool.

We enjoy having you in the premier league.

Blagg: That made sense until you mentioned Chelsea. It was the Abramovich purchase that enabled the club to throw off the old Pensioners tag and turn themselves into a team to line up alongside the others.People tend to forget that, before Zola, was Tommy Langely and Butch Wilkins' poorer brother. Since that day everyone has been looking for their own sugar-daddy. That is why clubs like West Ham are where they are financially now - trying to fight on a level playing field that never will be.

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Billy Blagg Born at an early age a mere defenders' spit from the Boleyn ground, Billy Blagg has seen every West Ham game from 1898 onwards. Blagg was mentioned by Kenneth Wolstenholme in 1966 as one of the people on the pitch during the famous Hammers win over West Germany that lifted the World Cup and he returned to the pitch again for the 1975 FA Cup Final but stayed on the terrace for 1980 FA Cup victory. Blagg, 26, now lives with his eighth wife and innumerable children in a small semi-detached with chintz curtains in Dagenham, Essex and still attends every Hammers match and training session.

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