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Posted by Billy Blagg on 08/25/2009

The years rolled back at Upton Park on Tuesday night as '70's terrace hooliganism returned to East London in scenes that could have come directly from another 'straight to bargain bin' sequel of 2005 film 'Green Street'.

This time though there was no Frodo Baggins and no socio-macho altercations posing as entertainment; this time the violence was real and meant at least one man was stabbed as over 200 police in riot gear tried to quell the violence as bottles and bricks were thrown in pre-match street battles that were later described as 'large scale trouble'.

Life imitating 'Art'? Well, this was always going to be a powder keg of a match and trouble was never going to be far from the surface but perhaps the Police were a little unprepared for scenes that some fans won't have seen before, but which will remind older supporters of days when supporting your team was a darker and more dangerous occupation.

Ironic that Jack Collison should choose to 'stand and fight' on this evening; the young midfielder, who tragically lost his father in a traffic accident as he made his way to Upton Park to see his son play against Tottenham last weekend, bravely offered to play and was terribly let down on a night when football took a back seat to the return of the 'English disease'.

Following pitch invasions and the inevitable outcry from the FA, West Ham may well find themselves fined and, perhaps worse. There will also be a demand for the supporters who encroached onto the pitch to be banned. Whatever the outcome, it was a sobering sight to see police lined like a wall around Upton Park station while mounted officers rode by and helicopters clattered overhead.

The game will always come second to the kind of headlines now destined for this match, a shame as this was a good game that gave West Ham their almost inevitable cup fright. Neil Harris had given the visitors a 26th minute lead and that had looked to be enough until three minutes from the end when Junior Stanislas struck to send the tie into extra time, prompting the first pitch invasion. Tempers already heightened by the late equaliser, spilled over when West Ham were awarded a penalty eight minutes into extra time, Stanislas scoring from the spot before another invasion forced the teams from the pitch.

It took about six minutes for police and officials to clear the area, with Collison being one of the players trying to get fans to remove themselves. After the restart, the Hammers scored again after two minutes with Zavon Hines hitting home with a classy strike but, unfortunately, the promising showing of more Hammer's youngsters will be overshadowed by the night's violence as the game ended with more fans trying to get onto the pitch.

Comments

Posted by Darren on 08/26/2009

I'm a Yank' and I just saw Green Street on Friday. Hell of a coincidence

Blagg says: Incredibly, there is talk of a Green Street III starring Vinnie Jones - God help us all!

Posted by paul pudney on 08/26/2009

Cheers BB. Agree,like you lived through some of this in the past and thought it was in the past. Don't the pitch invasion idiots know its just going to cause the club trouble and then not be able to come to games again. Don't they think the club has got enough to deal with at the moment without this.

Posted by Andrew Lewin on 08/26/2009

Its been a few years since I last went to a game as I live in Oz now. I did go to a game(Portsmouth, we lost 2-4) 2-3 years ago and didn't like the atmosphere much then. There's a mythology at West Ham that films like Green Street glorify.

PP - these people don't think. By the way, were you at Liverpool Uni in the late 80's early 90's??

Blagg says: Me? At Uni? Let me show you my CSE results some time...

Posted by Paul on 08/26/2009

So sad...It is the disease that plagues all European football, along with the uncontrollable racism that FIFA and UEFA have tried, in vain, to curb....While I truly appreciate the die-hard fans that European football has, the bad elements such as the firms and what not are the parts that I abhor and never want to see ruin this beautiful game...

If violence like this continues, this "beautiful game" will no longer hold that title and will soon be a "stained game"....


P.S.- Their is a "Green Street 2" and it is about how the firms deal after they have all be sent to jail following the fight that ended the last movie...

Blagg says: Paul, I know there is a Green Street II. I was trying to pretend their wasn't...

Posted by Alex on 08/26/2009

Good to see the Old English spirit back! Don't let Modern Football and the FA hold passions back. Up the hammers!

Posted by Anthony Ferguson on 08/27/2009

Such a shame to see that sort of crap come back to haunt us. Perhaps the authorities should impose a ten year fan ban on West Ham v Millwall games. Any time the two teams meet, make them play behind closed doors.

Posted by Mark on 08/27/2009

After the really sick chants aimed at Defoe at the weekend, this is not a good week for West Ham. Now ten, where's that points deduction ...

Posted by Mazen Masri on 08/27/2009

Only if Bovver was around, it would have been hell!

Big ups to Jack Collison, I like your style...

Posted by Mohammed on 08/27/2009

The best way to deal with the racism and violence is harsher punishment for both club and fans, if i know that i can cause my team to be relegated or denied playing in important tournaments, then i would leave my stupidity at home...

Blagg says: This assumes the trouble is caused by regular supporters who care about punishments to their clubs. I don't think the situation is as cut and dried as that.

Posted by C. Tech on 08/28/2009

Man... Green Street really was a terrible movie.

Blagg says: GS2 apparently makes 1 look like Citizen Kane!

Posted by Mark, Melbourne on 08/28/2009

It's that innate ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Having produced quality English players over and extended period of time, with a promising generation in progress, a promising & personable manager, having moved forward from the Icelandics, got past the Tevez saga ... this happens.

Blagg says: There won't be threats of point deductions or court cases this time though. Ban a few faces - you should be able to identify them from their tattoos - and move on.

Posted by Steven Ireland on 08/28/2009

The solution is simple, kick west ham out of all cup competitions this season and deduct 20 points.

Blagg says: More incisive wit. You Sheffield supporters don't give up do you?

Posted by Al-wall on 08/29/2009

I was there on Tuesday night supporting the 'wall and I can tell you I have not had a better day out at the football in my life. The working class took their game back from the west end theatre crowds that have taken over the premiership. I reluctantly give big respect to the West Ham fans that gave us the hostile reception we received on Tuesday night. In the championship years Millwall really took liberties in East London and it looked as though West Ham had really been taken over by the moral majority synonymous with the premiership football. These are the games filled with real passion that supporters look forward to with the excitement children have on Christmas eve. We're told we're not real supporters, but we show so much more passion and give so much more for our clubs than the prawn sandwich brigade ever could. What I would give to relive this match every week. And playing this fixture behind closed doors will cause murders outside the ground. There's no two ways about it.

Posted by Terence on 08/30/2009

In a month where Davenport may never play again and violence at Upton Park, it is a rather sad month for West Ham. "The Beautiful Game" suddenly doesn't seemed that pretty anymore.

Blagg says: I might start fining fans who use the words 'Beautiful Game' in their comments...

Posted by matt on 08/30/2009

I'm a new generation fan from overseas - prepare for lots of them, Premier League fans, they're keeping you afloat - and have been since 1997. I like the history, the football and the fans; we have a great club (not I am not afraid to throw the "we" in there).

I recently bought my young son a new home kit, customized with name and number shipped at great expense. Help me out here Blagg: how exactly am I supposed to explain this event and why does my stomach feel queasy when I see him kicking a ball in backyard while wearing his shirt?

Blagg says: .....hmmmm... I'm one of the old generation Matt and I'm not sure I'm equipped to answer that in a few pithy sentences. I'd be interested to know if you support the Hammers for a reason and where you support them from?

Posted by soonerfan61 on 08/30/2009

Crazy--I'm a Yank who also saw Green Street on Friday. I have to say I was disappointed in the movie, but it does look sterling when compared to the trailer I saw for Green Street II.

I'd like to see either a good doc about hooliganism or a compelling fiction film made about it.

Blagg says: Your wait may be over mate! Green Street III with Vinny Jones is being mooted. Can hardly wait...

Posted by Solomon on 08/31/2009

Simplest easiest solution already mentioned Each and every time these two teams meet It must be behind closed doors for ever

Posted by Matt on 09/02/2009

BB - I support them for reasons good and reasons unexplainable.

Good: being on the short list of great sporting events involving a white horse, class act Bobby Moore, the Academy, the East End, those goofy castles outside UP, Marco Boogers, the totally nutters PDC, working class grit coupled with a determination to produce stylish football.

Unexplainable: I found a dirty and stepped on scarf in the gutter outside a tube stop and asked someone "who the hell is West Ham United". (note: true story, not a metaphor)

I'm not sure why is entirely relevant; it's just something that happened and I've been dealing with the consequences. I'm a US fan and seen two matches live, at Upton Park once and at Selhurst Park for a rainy nil-nil draw against Wimbeldon.

Am I die-hard? Not sure what that scale looks like (tattooed folks on top?) but I threw up after the FA Cup Final. I guess my main feeling is "what have I got myself into" and I needed to vent

Blagg says: Nice story Matt. Judging by your email that's not the Brewers AND the Hammers, is it? If so, it's a life of pain, my friend.

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Billy Blagg Born at an early age a mere defenders' spit from the Boleyn ground, Billy Blagg has seen every West Ham game from 1898 onwards. Blagg was mentioned by Kenneth Wolstenholme in 1966 as one of the people on the pitch during the famous Hammers win over West Germany that lifted the World Cup and he returned to the pitch again for the 1975 FA Cup Final but stayed on the terrace for 1980 FA Cup victory. Blagg, 26, now lives with his eighth wife and innumerable children in a small semi-detached with chintz curtains in Dagenham, Essex and still attends every Hammers match and training session.

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