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Posted by James Whittaker on 11/08/2011

It speaks volumes about Stoke's away form when our latest opponents had lost their last five home games before we arrived and by the time we left had chalked up their biggest ever Premier League win.


Role Reversal... ©Talksport

I’ve been pretty negative about things for a while because of the gaping issues that many others are now also coming to recognise, I even tried my best to be positive about the re-introduction of Huth (albeit it at right back) and the inclusion of some pace up front in Jerome (albeit it shifting Walters out wide and persisting with the immobile Crouch). Hell, I even managed to take some positives from the fact that we seemed to have a bit more movement than normal, the midfield actually making an effort to get in and around Crouch, but alas this new found optimism was all to be chucked into a huge pit of despair as we made mistake after mistake from top to bottom culminating in our heaviest defeat for some time.

The main talking points are as follows;

Tactics –I really thought we set up to be more attacking, it was also positive that Pulis has recognised the need for pace away from home to support the isolated Crouch (if he insists on using him) and to give us another out ball in Jerome. Sadly his good work in this area was well and truly undone by a number of errors which were compounded by the continued selection of Woodgate in the middle of defence.

The Manager – You won’t find many calling for the manager’s head but when 95% of the fan base can all reel off the same defence as our strongest I think it’s justified to wonder just what the thought process is of splitting up one of the best defensive partnerships in the league. Far too many players are out of position and the failure to buy players in the areas most lacking is well and truly coming back to bite our great leader on his backside, especially in the full back areas. It’s the nonsensical and stubborn decision making though which is starting to seriously cloud what a good job he has done and with the advent of small pockets of booing and dwindling away attendances, the evidence suggests that the fans’ patience in this respect is wearing thin.

Begovic – I’ve spoken in previous weeks about giving the young Bosnian a chance to make a few mistakes, but I meant a few mistakes a month, not a game. Once again Asmir made critical errors resulting in at least two goals if not three and when you look at the mistakes he has made recently at Sunderland and Arsenal, I’m afraid it is best for the team that he is dropped. What exactly is the point of having excellent back up and competition if the manager is afraid to drop the star of the future for fear of him being upset and seeking a move elsewhere, because that’s exactly what I think is happening here.

Woodgate – I’m not sure what else I can say over and above what I have been writing about as far back as his signing. He is not a good defender anymore and is suffering even more in our deep shape where we need strong minds as well as bodies, sadly he is lacking in both.

Whelan – Glen has had a few poor games of late which is a shame because he has been our best midfielder in my opinion since the back end of last season. I think he needs a well deserved rest over these next couple of weeks to recover from what has been a crazy schedule so far this season which will hopefully get him back to something like the midfielder we know he can be.

Players coming back – The picture starts to look a bit rosier when you think that we still have a fully fit Higginbotham to come back in at left back, a fully fit Palacios to appear in centre midfield and a fully fit Fuller to try and bring some semblance of ball retention up front. That said, we’ve already got players on the bench who would improve the starting XI in Huth and Jones but neither are being used so whether or not these three will actually feature is anyone’s guess.


Talisman... ©Michael Regan/Getty Images

So onto the next bank of games which certainly sees some winnable ties, I think it’s a case of going back to basics, and by that I don’t mean tactics wise (we’ve already done that) but rather a settled back line of Wilko – Huth – Shawcross – Higgy and the reintroduction of Jones. After all, if Pulis is back in the mindset of playing for territory and throw ins, it makes much more sense having two players on the pitch who will actually attack the ball and not Crouch and Woodgate. If we can make these changes we’ll settle the side into something that looks more like the solid unit of old and from there we move onwards and hopefully upwards because the last thing we want is to be dragged into a battle at the bottom of the table and if nothing does change, that’s exactly where we’ll be headed.


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Posted by Denison92 on 11/08/2011

I consider myself to be a strong supporter of Tony Pulis but taken exception to his early complaints about having to travel domestically after every European fixture. If he said anything about the schedule, what he should have said was that the schedule is what is and that our players are going to be prepared to play. Period.

On the other hand, I question why the Champions League games are on Tuesdays and Wednesdays rather than Wednesdays and Thursdays (with the Europa League games on Tuesdays). Why give the top teams such a huge advantage over the 2nd Tier teams?

Please educate a relatively new European football fan on this issue.

JW - To be fair to Pulis, he has been quick to debunk the Euro travel theory, it's simply our away form that is a mess and has been since we got promoted. As for having to play on a Thursday, as you say, it's the big teams they want to showcase in the week and also keep on TV on the Saturday...

Posted by Stoke Oracle on 11/08/2011

I agree with most that is said, but Jones is no better than Crouch in any department. Having said that if you had the best centre forward in the world in that Stoke side he'd be struggling!!
Players like Crouch,Jones and Jerome need support with good midfield players pushing through cutting passes and good crosses non of which Stoke have been doing. Etherington has been disappointing this season and Whelan was never capable of passing forward more than 5 yds. Better attacking midfielder req, better wing back up and Crouch will flourish

JW - I agree that Crouch will do much better with players around him, especially if we get some in who are comfortable with the ball! My worry is that Pulis is refusing to change his style in which case KJ IS a better fit, he has pace, is strong and more important than any of this he ATTACKS the ball. Just watch how Crouch handles balls that are around 10ft away from him next time you watch us play...

Posted by Jolly Potter on 11/08/2011

I fear your assessments about Woodgate and Crouch may well fall on deaf ears as Pulis seems adamant to force his Blind Pu-lis philosophy on all of us to the point of abject despair. Until we reach that - possibly sooner than later - I fear we will perish at the hands of QPR, Blackburn and Kiev. We deserve to if Pulis does not address the error of his thinking. Maybe this kind of wake up call is what is needed to "enlighten" him on the folly of his stale, unadventurous anti-football tactics. When did we last lose 4 on the trot at home ?

JW - I'm hoping that Pulis has been shamed into making the right decisions, especially in defence, his area of expertise. This HAS to be hurting him...

Posted by Jolly Potter on 11/08/2011

James,

i was curious to know your take on the fact we clearly took a risk when signing Palacios with Crouch but were not prepared to risk a Demba Ba. Dont you think that there is a diconnect here in the Stoke approach. Ba had no apparent issue but was high risk - Palacios had a known issue but was worth the risk - yet we have seen more of Demba Ba this season at Stoke than Palacios - and three goals to boot. Any thoughts ?

JW - I can only think that Ba's condition looked chronic and could return, he'd failed 3 medicals before us so we had to make a decision based on the £9m he'd have cost. However.... he was available for free in the Summer, we must have really messed him around as it seems we weren't even in the race when the risk was so little, and that's a huge shame

Posted by 11rosicky on 11/10/2011

I'm Bosnian and a huge Arsenal supporter but there are no Bosnians in the current Arsenal squad (except young Hajrovic who may or may not break trough). Because of that I am forced to watch both Stoke City (Begovic) and Manchester City (Dzeko).

I enjoy watching Stoke City and Begovic does reasonably well for them but I was wondering what is the general opinion on him in England forgetting the last game?

JW - Forced to watch? I know the feeling :) My opinion of Begovic is that he is one of the best young keepers around but he has had a bad run, which he will do because he is still learning. The problem we have, and you will know this yourself, is that he has often shown questionable loyalty so I think Pulis is very nervous about upsetting him, knowing he will move on to a bigger team. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Posted by Kapil on 11/12/2011

In my opinion crouch is awful and he doesn't deserve to play for stoke. He looks like a taller and leaner berbatov who can't handle the ball properly(i refer to berba only because of his lazy approach and not because he isn't good enough...he is any day better than the likes of crouch)...he doesn't have the pace or power to beat defenders...and he can be outmuscled by the smallest of defenders...how can he play for a team like stoke who are physically so strong and he looks like a powerless rat who'll be blown away by the wind...

JW - He seems like an odd choice to lead a Stoke line, I honestly think, much like Gudjohnson, Pulis saw the name, went all out ot get him without really thinking how he might fit into our side.

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James Whittaker James Whittaker is a football writer and ardent Stoke fan. Having moved to Leeds as a youngster his father refused to take him to his local Championship winning side and instead insisted he chose the Third Division team of his forefathers, Stoke City. Since then there has been no looking back and having been brought up on a diet of Dave Rowson, Kyle Lightbourne and John Gayle, is now embracing the dizzy heights of the top flight for the first time in his life. Fiercely loyal, though always welcoming sensible chat and debate, you can find him on Twitter @ESPN_Stoke

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