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Posted by James Whittaker on 10/26/2009

What a day, what a performance and what a result!

All week forums were buzzing with what team we should play, who should come in, what tactics should we try – thing is they were mostly talking about our next home game at Wolves. I, like many it seems, was more or less consigned to not getting anything at Spurs, last season’s mauling still very fresh in the mind and Sorensen’s late exclusion only seemed to cement that feeling. One player who had a nightmare last season was Wilkinson, who came back in for the suspended Huth, you could almost see Lennon’s grin from the stands as he rubbed his hands in glee at the prospect of once again running the deputising right back ragged.

The game actually started brightly enough and it was Stoke who were attacking, a failed attack saw the ball drop to Diao who sent the ball back into the mire for Fuller to nod on to Etherington who saw his deflected shot cleared by Woodgate’s head which in turn was cleared by Beattie’s head. The Spurs defender dropped like a sack of spuds and came around slowly, I didn’t see the physio holding up his fingers to count but I imagine ‘Eleventeen’ would have been the response such was the state of the unlucky Centre Back. Woodgate was replaced shortly afterwards in front of a watching Capello, but it was a Stoke player who may well have caught the eye of the England Coach on this particular day.

I was very nervous when I heard Simmo was to play, I’ve nothing against the lad, he did great in the Championship and his shot stopping is excellent but his command of his area has always been poor and that in turn makes for a nervous back line. Simmo made a number of excellent saves in the first half and really kept us in the game, though one save was because he failed to come out and collect a ball which was then won by Crouch at the back post over Shawcross who might well have expected his Keeper to come and claim. It was Beattie, however, who had anticipated the flight of the ball to clear off the line with what looked like the hamstring agilty of someone half his age, just watching him get his foot that high made me wince. Stoke continued to frustrate and at half time there were more than a few boos for the home side for failing to break down an obviously stubborn Stoke.

The second half went much the same way as the first with the brilliant Diao continuing to pull the strings in midfield and the reborn Etherington making his full back earn his wages by running outside him, inside him… over him… under him. Stoke seemed to get more space as the game went on and as they have done in the last 2 games kept a higher line and committed players forward to try and pin Spurs back. Harry utilised his bench well and Jenas was starting to really make an impact but then Whelan who had come on for the leggy Delap brought down Lennon, who despite his Manager’s protestations, refused to go back onto the pitch, Spurs had used all 3 of their subs so they were now down to 10. This suited Stoke and their other substitute, the lively Turk Tuncay who came on for the largely ineffective Beattie, was playing like a man with a point to prove. Tuncay looks very comfortable on the ball and managed to run with it taking pressure off the defensive unit, though such was his desire to make an impact, on more than one occasion he ran into trouble, at one point he had 4 defenders around him whilst his strike partner Fuller was open to receive a pass.

The space left by the 10 men of Spurs was starting to work in our favour and in the 86th minute the brilliant Diao played a simple ball to Fuller on the right of midfield, Fuller strolled with the ball with Assou Ekotto and Palacios in tow right down to the corner flag, perhaps thinking he would stay there the defender seemed to switch off for a split second and before he knew it Fuller was past him and looking up could see the Spurs defence completely static as he picked the option of Whelan who produced a finish reminiscent of his excellent goal for the Republic against Italy….cue pandemonium in the stands for the brilliant 1800 or so Stokies who had kept going throughout.

5 mins went up on the electronic board and we just had to hang on, it could have gone horribly wrong though when Diao appeared to trip Krancjar in the box, though the replays showed that Diao got the faintest of touches on the ball, enough to change it’s direction, before taking the man who was all to eager to go down arms flailing in disbelief. We hung on though and completed what could easily be described as our best away result of the last 25 years.

An excellent game, some real encouraging play, a lovely move for the goal with the ball not leaving the floor once, all starting from a lovely shimmy and pass from the improved Collins, in fact it was Spurs playing ugly with their upfield punts to Crouch for the last 25 mins or so. Simonsen was brilliant, but I still think he struggles with commanding his area and you could tell the defence looked nervous as a result. Whitehead had a better game but with Diao playing so well I think it is time to bring Whelan back into the fold. Beattie despite his goals of last week and heroic clearance off the line didn’t have his best game and put the team under pressure by losing the ball 3 times in midfield before he was replaced. But the team, including all the players listed here, were magnificent as a unit and yes, we rode our luck but it kind of felt deserved, maybe not just from today, but for those games where we have been so desperately unlucky this season already.

Manager Rating – 9.5

Player Ratings

Simonsen – 9
Wilkinson – 8
Shawcross – 8
Faye – 8
Collins – 8.5
Delap – 7
Whitehead – 7.5
Diao – 9.5 (Man of the Match)
Etherington – 9
Fuller – 8.5
Beattie – 7.5

Substitutes

Whelan – 8.5
Tuncay – 8
Higginbotham – not on long enough

Comments

Posted by David Rathband on 10/27/2009

Just one point that is worth commenting on my friend. The boos at half time were not, repeat not because Spurs had failed to break Stoke down, they clearly had; how else would they have had three clear attempts on goal that were saved/cleared of the line? The boos were directed at your team and specifically at your goalkeeper who wasted time taking every goal kick. His attitude to wasting time so early in the match underlines Stoke City's approach to football, not once did your goalkeeper roll the ball out to his defenders to begin play, every ball from your own half was a long ball and your team actually looked to play the ball off Spurs players to gain long throw situations rather than keep the ball in open play. You may have won this match with your only shot on target but it wasn't only Tottenham Hotspur who lost, it was the beautiful game too.

Posted by James Whittaker on 10/27/2009

Interesting comments David..

You say we won with only our first shot on target, I'm pretty sure Woodgate would disagree after being knocked out clearing the ball off the line from Etherington's shot..Diao also had a shot that was deflected by a Spurs defender though a goal kick was wrongly awarded.

You also say 'every ball from your half was a long ball' - I urge you to watch the goal again, our left back sold your attacker a dummy, then played it inside and the ball was worked across to Diao who passed to Fuller on the halfway line who took the ball down the line and...well you know the rest.

It was Spurs who resorted to lumping it up to Crouch as you ran out of ideas and Stoke who were playing much nicer football on the floor in the last 25 mins or so - more established teams, like Arsenal last season, always try and take the footballing moral high ground but it simply doesn't bother us.

Tottenham spent £42m on 4 players this summer, our entire team cost half that, until we have taken in the many years of Premier League money and are on an even footing do you really think it is fair to take the moral high ground or do you think that perhaps you should respectfully doff your cap to a team making the most of what they have?

Posted by David Rathband on 10/27/2009

Were you actually at this game? Woodgate was not injured in heading the ball of line from a shot, it was a lump into the box from the left wing. Whether Diao's shot was deflected or not - it wasn't on target. I agree Tottenham did lump it to Crouch towards the end of the game but then our most innovative and effective player had been clogged off the pitch and it left us a man short in midfield. I am not taking the moral high ground, I am expressing my dismay that your club have chosen to play a brand of long ball football which on Saturday at least was allied to cynical time wasting. Given that in the close season following your promotion to the Premier League Stoke City were the 12th highest spenders in all European leagues the argument that you dont have the money doesn't compute at all. If I did have a cap and I was unfortunate to have to watch your team play every week I wouldn't be doffing it i'd be using it to cover my eyes.

Posted by James Whittaker on 10/28/2009

Were YOU at the game, Woodgate's injury came from a ball played in from Diao on the edge of the 18yd box in the middle that was nodded on by Fuller to Etherington who half volleyed the ball, which caught a deflection from Krankjar and was cleared by Woodgate?!

Diao's shot WAS on target before being deflected..I think you're perhaps just a little embarrased at being beaten by the bully boys...again.

Perhaps if Lennon had shown an ounce of the bravery and commitment every one of our players did that you are so quick to berate then maybe you might have had something out of the game?

Posted by Dave Yates on 10/28/2009

Stoke are not as bad as everyone says they are, but they can and do defend staunchly throughout the team, from forwards like Beattie clearing off the line to the full time defenders, usually managing pressure for 60% of most matches. It works, it is not the luck other team's fans level at Stoke - alongside Chelsea, Stoke have the most clean-sheets in the Premiership.

Tottenham are excellent this year and they naturally expected to beat Stoke. But like others this season, were not able to break down the defence. They tested every element of it, coming close, but failing repeatedly until they were knackered.

It was simple a game of defence v attack and defence won. It seemed to me like a Mohammed 'rope-a-dope' trick. Once Spurs were all punched out and Lennon limped off more demoralised than injured, a fresh Tuncay and Whelan alongside the excellent Fuller muscled their way past the Spurs defence and scored.

Stoke won, it was fair and square, but no more than that.

Posted by DaveStokie on 10/28/2009

David...WATCH OUR GOAL and spot the long ball in it!

Posted by Carterstokie on 10/28/2009

Idiots 0 Stoke City 1. No matter what the Spurs support say we have played Spurs 3 times now in the Prem and have 2 wins for our troubles. Thats what the record book says. How we win is irrelevant, remember beating Liverpool at White Hart Lane last season? Got hammered, then scored 2 lucky goals at the end to win? Stones and glass houses springs to mind, just remember spuds you'll never be top 4.

Posted by SonOfFaye on 10/28/2009

Etheringtons shot was deflected into Beattie/Woodgate's path and he got injured clearing it. Lennon twisted his ankle in a regulation tackle and if your manager wants to use all his subs thats his preorgative. Lennon should have stayed on but he went off crying.


As for the cap comment is that why we have 27,000 people every week and have the best and loudest fans in the league????

Posted by Greg on 10/28/2009

It's unfortunate that our Spurs friend, like many of his acolytes, seem incapable of being even slightly magnanimous in defeat. Stoke gave a battling defensive performance, and while we are happy to accredit some of the result to good fortune, we are also entitled to believe that winning games at grounds like White Hart Lane represents a sea-change in our ambition.

Given the comments Mr Rathband makes, in particular reference to Woodgate's injury on the goal line after a tremendously brave piece of defending, i would suggest he didn't actually go to the game, and like many "supporters" of bigger sides, watched the game on teletext and is outraged at teletext not giving him the right score.

Worst thing is Mr Rathband, you've got Arsenal Saturday. Perhaps you should go for a walk or something and save yourself the embarrassment of talking about things of which you clearly have no frame of reference.

Posted by David Rathband on 10/30/2009

I am delighted Greg recognises Tottenham Hotspur as a 'bigger side', as a home and away supporter of Spurs who travels to every game from Staffordshire I can only concur. I also agree that I was outraged at the score, not because it was a lucky win, as Carterstokie quite rightly points out we all get those and we have had our fair share in the past, it was the manner of the win, cynical time wasting and long ball football outraged myself and many of my fellow fans and it was this attitude to the game which prompted the booing at half time and further prompted my comment on the original article by James Whittaker.
I only hope for the sake of football that SonOfFaye's comment that Lennon twisted his ankle in a 'regulation tackle' (for which Whelan was rightly booked) is not a true reflection of the attitude of 'the best and loudest fans in the league'
I know now that next time Stoke City are in town, watching teletext will certainly be a more appealing proposition.

Posted by James Whittaker on 10/31/2009

I feel compelled to interrupt my viewing of the Spurs v Arsenal game to come and write a quick note, Spurs have attempted only 2 attacks in the first 10 mins, both 70yd punts up to Crouch from the full back..

edit - another long ball from Gomes to Crouch, is this not the keeper who 'rolls the ball out to his defenders to begin play'?

The poor beautiful game is suffering in North London today, I feel sorry for the Arsenal who are clearly the better footballing side, maybe, just maybe that might be why Spurs seem to be simply lumping it upfield to Crouch's head...

No doubt David if you ARE there you have stormed out in disgust and will be watching the rest of the game by teletext...

Posted by David Rathband on 11/01/2009

James,
Yes I was there, at least we attempted to attack and never attempted when faced by a superior team to waste time. The footballing facts as they stand before Saturdays games are: Stoke City - completed passes in 10 games 1567, the equal lowest in the Premier League alongside that other well known long ball team Bolton Wanderers. Thats an average of less than 160 succesful passes to a team mate per game or 1.7 succesful passes per minute, factual proof that your team are bash it and follow it proponents. In the same number of games Tottenham Hotspur achieved more than double the number of succesful passes - over 3200 and for the record Arsenal passed the ball 3600+ times - but of course with one game less played. I would refer you to my original comment; it was the long ball tactics allied to the cynical time wasting by your goalkeeper that prompted the booing by Spurs fans at half time, not the fact that the team had failed to score. Your reports should contain facts not fantasy.

Posted by James Whittaker on 11/02/2009

David - The footballing facts as they stood before Saturdays game are;

Stoke have the third best defence in the league Stoke are 9th in the Premier League
Stoke beat Tottenham to make it 2 out of 3

Your OPTA run doesn't bother me in the slightest, I wasn't once saying we play beautiful football;

You accused us of lumping the ball long at any opportunity - I showed you the goal which was done all on the floor

You said at least you play lovely football - I showed you the stats of your horrendous lumping of the ball up to Crouch, which seemed to be your one and only tactic

You said Gomes always rolls the ball out to play from the back yet Saturdays game suggests he too likes to launch it to Crouch's head

It doesn't bother me, it is a results game, ask West Brom, they played lovely football last year, now they are in the Championship..

Did you see our first goal on Saturday? Sorensen rolls the ball to Etherington who ran the length of the pitch to cross for the g

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James Whittaker James Whittaker is a football writer and ardent Stoke fan. Having moved to Leeds as a youngster his father refused to take him to his local Championship winning side and instead insisted he chose the Third Division team of his forefathers, Stoke City. Since then there has been no looking back and having been brought up on a diet of Dave Rowson, Kyle Lightbourne and John Gayle, is now embracing the dizzy heights of the top flight for the first time in his life. Fiercely loyal, though always welcoming sensible chat and debate, you can find him on Twitter @ESPN_Stoke

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