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Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/11/2012

Three weeks into administration and things go from murky to murkier. With no clear view on the club's security, no certainty of fulfilling fixtures until the end of the season, no conclusion on the Ticketus monies and only understandably vague revelations of potential bidders it seems there will be no immediate end to the uncertainties surrounding our club. I have said repeatedly that the end game for me is a sale of the business and assets, i.e. everything that constitutes the club, to a new company (newco). For me the current company is simply the ownership structure of the club and Rangers will survive. The fall out in terms of punishments and demotions though make many uncomfortable with such a resolution.

I thought at this juncture it was worth considering the recent performance and position of the key protagonists in the current drama.

The Scottish Press
There seems to be a polarisation of opinion on Rangers' fate from the papers, radio and TV experts. Either it will all be ok because well, eh, we're Rangers or there will be liquidation and the club will disappear forever. The subtleties of our current predicament are being lost. Someone who writes for a tabloid newspaper's sports section is viewed as a journalist. This conveys a certain gravitas. This week we had 6 players being made redundant. No wait it is 11. No hang about it will be 8. It is today. No today. No it will absolutely be today...The sense that this amounts to either guess work or simply stating whatever line they are fed from inside the club is inescapable. A key quality of a journalist is the ability to question. Scepticism and verification of sources are conspicuous by their absence when considering the approach of the tabloid press in considering Rangers. Conversely someone who writes exclusively on line is considered to be a blogger. The very name hints at amateurism and inferiority. In truth, it is the rangerstaxcase blog which has been leading the way on this. Perhaps then it is time we revisited the distinctions. Right now on the basis of the last week it strikes me we have either bloggers or blaggers.

The Bidders
Paul Murray has been in the press all week with his Blue Knights consortium. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and conclude he has the best of intentions. His actions though are misguided and nothing I have read suggests this is in anyway a credible option. If your funding comes from Ticketus and pledges via a fans' website then you are clearly struggling to raise the funds to buy the business and assets. The reality is true wealth does not conduct its business in the red tops. A consortium will emerge. As I have stated before there are enough people with the wealth and desire to ensure Rangers do not disappear to make this happen. They will not though purchase the shares of the company. This is too expensive and too uncertain an approach. Many unknowns remain about the liabilities and there can be no warranties given. Ultimately they will buy the business and assets. Such a deal is only possible now because we are in administration as neither SDM or Craig Whyte would ever have countenanced this. We will go through a liquidation but that process will be the club's ultimate salvation not its death. The biggest obstacle will be transferring the SPL share. If approval is blocked (and it will be) then we are looking at potentially starting over in the third division. I believe if costs are reduced to the level of a non Old Firm SPL club then provided we can still attract 20,000 plus regularly the club can rebuild from this. If Hibs can break even could Rangers in this position actually turn a profit? We could conceivably be coming back to the SPL having built some surplus cash with which to hit the ground running. Such a scenario would be painful and it is by no means certain the fans would all be carried through the process. What is certain though is that this has to be the end game. It is the only logical conclusion. What do you think? Am I blogging or blagging?

D&P
The administrators have been portrayed by some as out of their depth. Certainly they will have come to understand very quickly I am sure why no Insolvency Practitioner in Scotland would even consider taking on the Rangers administration. There is no question the hesitation displayed in making redundancies suggested weakness and an uncertainty of purpose. Ultimately the success or otherwise of their time in charge will be the return they achieve for the creditors. The gamble they took this week in retaining players all came down to retaining value. Again we come back to my conclusion that there will be a sale of the business and assets. In simple terms this achieves a far better return for the creditors than selling the assets off individually.

The Rangers Support
Disbelief and denial are happily giving way to a determination to do what is needed to see the club continue. I was initially sceptical of the red and black scarf campaign but the more I think of it the more the merits are apparent. The symbolism clearly takes its cue from the Man United green and yellow anti-Glazer scarves. The visual display of solidarity is important and preferable to the defiance and solace some sought in turning back the clock with recent songs. It is a proactive approach and in using Govan's historic red and black is a clear statement of the club's importance to our community.

I am slightly less comfortable with the notion of contributing to the proposed fighting fund. How much responsibility for the reckless actions of directors can be laid at the feet of your ordinary fan? I find something distasteful in the notion the average working Bear who has bought his season ticket and replica shirt should now be parting with hard earned cash for what exactly? The opportunity to do the same again next season? Helping pay players' wages? Certainly they deserve credit for accepting pay cuts but 25% of £20,000 a week is still way more than most in the stands earn. Each to their own I suppose and ultimately if needs must then needs must.

Slowly there is a growing acceptance that some form of punishment is coming IF the second contract issue is as clear cut as we are lead to believe or we go into liquidation. Provided this is in line with the existing legal and footballing regulatory framework I think there cannot realistically be any objections. Right now there is a growing acknowledgement this may well mean lower division football. For some this is purely based on the need for the rules to be applied. For others there is a definite sense of "f the lot of them let's see how they get on without us".

If we want Rangers to survive then it will. If we are prepared to accept the business and assets being bought by a newco is still Rangers then it is still Rangers. As ever, hold your nose and eventually the stink will go away.

Celtic
There is a notable silence from Celtic right now. Beyond Lennon's understandable snap at Hatley and Burley any comments have been confined to sympathies for the trials and tribulations of our players and management. Make no mistake though Celtic are preparing themselves. My understanding is a legal team have been engaged for weeks now examining all the relevant domestic and European football regulations with the explicit aim of ensuring the maximum possible punishment is exerted on Rangers. (The one positive from a Rangers point of view is the conclusion that there is no prospect of stripping us of any titles. I should imagine that advice didn't go down too well.) The underlying aim in all of this is providing Celtic with a free run at Champions League monies for the foreseeable future. Celtic's board are well within their rights to pursue whatever course of action they wish. They are after all a plc and the directors are there to work for the good of the shareholders not the good of football. Business is business but let us dispense with the notion this is all about sporting integrity. Maybe for the average guy on the street but most assuredly it is not for the guys in the board room. True or false? Blogger or blagger?

The Other 10
The non Old Firm SPL clubs are shortly to have a meeting amongst themselves. Sources have leaked to the press that this will not involve any discussion of pursuing an even split of gate receipts. You don't need to be Malcolm Tucker to conclude from this explicit denial that the Diddy Summit will most assuredly have a discussion on a change to the split of TV and sponsorship money, as well as probable changes to the voting rules. Again these clubs are well within their rights. An SPL without Rangers gives them a once in a generation chance to achieve a rebalance of power since there would be no effective Old Firm veto. (The majority of key voting changes require an 11-1 majority). Again though I must question whether at board room level this is about sporting integrity or a power/money grab.

The SFA/SPL
Passions are running high right now throughout the Scottish football community. Non-Rangers fans are justifiably focused on punishment. Rangers fans are justifiably struggling to think beyond self preservation. As I explicitly stated in my last blog whatever happens the authorities must be absolutely clear that any punishment they impose is within the existing rules. The current crisis has the potential to tear the game apart. Whatever our views and whatever our team of choice the one thing that unites us all is our love of the game. The authorities need to be clear that this is not about saving Rangers, it is about saving the game. I get the distinct impression the disrepute charge may be a means to deduct the points won this season under Whyte's ownership. This would inevitably mean relegation and could allow the SPL to duck any potential vote on share transfers or relegations. Any failure to apply existing rules or any attempt to create new ones has the clear potential to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of supporters which our game cannot afford. They simply have to get this right. I for one do not envy the grief and the decisions the next few weeks are going to bring for them.

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Comments

Posted by Anonymous on 03/11/2012

OBVIOUSLY A LOAD OF SHITE.

Posted by Anonymous on 03/11/2012

Your obviously not keeping up to speed Douglas, your story looks as if it may have been accurate on Thursday but it's now Sunday.

Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/11/2012

There has been no material change since Thursday. You may be taking comfort from D&P's statements regarding interested parties. As I said they will not be buying the shares they will be doing a deal for the business and assets.

The stories in the newspapers swing wildly in their out look. One day it is nothing but negativity. The next everything is positive again and it'll all be ok.

The truth is in between. Rangers as a club will ultimately survive but the next 6 months will not be pleasant and it will be a long way back.

Posted by David Allan on 03/11/2012

anyone trying to comment on the state of Rangers without acknowledging that it is inconceivable that due diligence would have flagged up that Craig Whyte had been banned for seven years and more importantly why this was not on the report is not doing their job properly.

Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/11/2012

David if that is aimed at me I'd say in the last blog I covered SDM and Craig Whyte and how Rangers had arrived at this point. In terms of a potential punishments and the restructuring that needs to happen he is of no relevance beyond his potential security hence I'm not going over the old ground of his acquisition.

Posted by Paul Boyle on 03/11/2012

Have you considered any action that UEFA might take as three European clubs are owed money. It might mean they could ban Rangers for 3 years, but again if they are liquidated that would be irrelevant as a "phoenix newco" they will not be allowed to play in Europe for 3 years.

Just wondering when UEFA might get in on the action,or are they waiting on the SFA on their actions?

Posted by taxman doesnt do walking away on 03/11/2012

i hope your right douglas and celtic have a legal team looking into the eufa,fifa spl and sfa rules and regulations regarding 17years or so if proven of two contract financial doping or cheating as its most commonly known because to be honest if they dont the spl and or sfa will use the get out of jail free card for scotlands institutional establishment club and the press of course will spout the mantra of it being all for the good scottish football.i dont want rangers dead i do feel strongly however they should be severely punished for this scandal.working a way out of administration seems too difficult for rangers fans triumphalism to stomach cutting the cloth to suit simply does not register.liquidation and newco prepak seems a better option as we all know walter and dave king have stated theres no loss of history but wait a minute ive seen the monty python dead parrot sketch,dont think so you cant keep your history but ditch the historical debt.this parrot is deceased im afraid.

Posted by trueblue on 03/11/2012

we cant expect anything else from celtic in their quest to getrangers punished more ,but wish somebody would have looked into their murky past abit more like when then used to give out false gate receipts eg saying there was less crowds in the piggery that there really was now is that not a taxdodge ??

Posted by gerry moran on 03/11/2012

Douglas, the only thing I would disagree with is that if Rangers are found to have made payments to players without notifying any relevant authority, then it is almost certain Rangers will be stripped of titles.

I am a Celtic supporter so you may think it may be more in hope than expectation, but it is the reverse. The huge problem for Rangers fans would be seeing Celtic being awarded titles, which would then make Celtic, Scotland's most successful team. And if Rangers where liquidated it would be for ever more, As of course newco would have nothing in the record books and old Rangers would be stuck on their record prior to liquidation.

Posted by James Forrest on 03/11/2012

Aside from containing no expressions of regret or remorse, and accepting no responsibility, this is one of the finest articles on the situation written by a Rangers fan. A cold, honest, examination of where your club is, if not how it got there. Fair play to you for this. Well done.

Posted by Jimmy McGovern on 03/11/2012

At the end of the day the rest of the world will now have to sit up and take notice of the fact that our beloved Rangers are guilty as charged in regard to the claims of Celtic's cry of "cheats".

Like it or not we have to admit that our victories in the past are hollow and nothing can change that fact. Hats off to Celtic for keeping quiet this week, especially after Burley and Hately showed themselves up for the gobshites they really are.

Let's hope that we can eventually move forward and wash our hands of this terrible nightmare in a few years time.

Posted by Collenan on 03/11/2012

If liquidation is the end game here and both the SPL and SFL seem hellbent on extreme forms of punishment then is there anything to stop Rangers applying to join the English leagues as a route into the EPL eventually?

Posted by Lamberto on 03/11/2012

"The one positive from a Rangers point of view is the conclusion that there is no prospect of stripping us of any titles. I should imagine that advice didn't go down too well."

Not entirely true. If the SFA find that Rangers have been giving multiple contracts and/or the use of a 3rd party in player contracts, they may deem that Rangers have been cheating since the establishment of the SPL.

One (reasonable) sanction for such alleged cheating could be to strip. Which means 15 in a row for Celtic, and laser treatment for all the Rangers fans with 5 stars tattooed across their chests.

You won by tax evasion, cheating and poor financial management. Now you have to pay the consequences.

Posted by doc holliday on 03/11/2012

You need to catch up Douglas.Your blog is out of date and NOT reflecting the current state of play or simple logic for that matter simple logic.

Ticketus will try and attach themselves to any successful bid consortium and will not countenance liquidation as it put their £24 million in serious jeopardy.In return,in all likelihood, they are not after equity but are likely offer a return on their investment in the season tickets.

Liquidation destroys value and the club will be sold as a going concern and I expect an announcement within weeks on a new owner.

Meantime the first £1million of savings target has been achieved(just announced by the Administrators).McCoist has met with Kennedy within the last week in Cheshire....and discussions are continuing with other serious bidders.
A CVA is the preferred route for Ticketus and HMRC who will do business with a Whyte free Rangers FC

Posted by Mik on 03/11/2012

This is one of the best pieces i have read by a Rangers Blogger on this issue(except the stripping of titles part(dont think that issue is put to bed yet). The press will print any old pish Media house tells them, Thats why whyte was allowed to buy the club in the first place. as for bidders no one is going to commit until the FTT rules. to do so would be suicide. D&P not to sure what to make of this lot they are sailing very close to the wind, and HMRC might just take the hump and request a new administrator. Rangers support well now that have their heads out of the sand all they can do is stand on the sidelines and watch this play out. Celtic, none of this is anything to do with Celtic and Neil Lennons Pre match today , told you what Celtic think of the Press. The other 10 well they are just circling like vultures now hoping to pick the corpse of rangers clean. a meeting without Celtic or rangers is uselses. SFA/SPL this shower have been shown up as the toothless tiger they are

Posted by Kenny on 03/11/2012

Douglas, I think you have as good an insight as any tabloid hack as to the situation at Rangers. I don't agree with Mr Allan's statement above. What does he mean exactly? You must mention the failure to have identified Whyte as a crook EVERY time that you talk about the state of Rangers. What are you on David Allan? Douglas, you make more sense than the red top journalists who will print anything to sell newspapers. On the above subject Daily Record has an article on David Murray saying that selling to Craig Whyte was his only mistake and that he would have to have been a mind-reader to have known about Whyte's murky past. The Daily Record's article print these comments unchallenged! Meanwhile the Sun rumours that there are up to 50 investors queueing up to buy Rangers! I will stick to your blog in future for more reliable information. Also, would be interested in what you think of Ticketus involvement now. What I would like to know is why did it make the deal with Rangers initially.

Posted by Kenny on 03/11/2012

I also challenge 'anonymous' to give us a better account of what is going on. What exactly has changed since Thursday? Rangers are still hanging on a precipice...liquidation is still a distinct possibility. And what are the fans doing? Why are they not pooling some money to help Rangers in the event that something else go tits up...which still seems more likely than not just now.

Posted by Jim Black on 03/11/2012

"I have said repeatedly that the end game for me is a sale of the business and assets, i.e. everything that constitutes the club, to a newco. For me the current company is simply the ownership structure of the club and Rangers will survive. "


This makes very depressing reading. In your scenario yes a new Rangers is formed. But that new Rangers cannot claim to have won 50 odd league championships and a European trophy. That will die when the current club folds and a new club is formed.

I think every true Rangers fan hopes and prays this never happens.

I'm surprised you are so negative given the news of the last 48 hours. What do you know that the administrators don't know? Even they are saying liquidation now is very unlikely. You must have knowledge of some very intimate details that even the administrators don't know about. Can you please share these details so you can justify your "slow road to liquidation" headline. And please don't say its a hunch. Come on spill the beans.

Posted by frank on 03/11/2012

If Rangers players were using 2nd contracts they will be stripped of titles. If the SFA do not do it by themselves, UEFA will make sure it is done.

Posted by Anonymous on 03/11/2012

Overall an interesting and fairly balanced take on things. Couple of questions I have:

1> If liquidation is the only possible way thru, why keep the players contracts on the books? In th event of liquidation, won't these contracts be voided and effectively have no asset value?

2> You state that "that some form of punishment is coming IF the second contract issue is as clear cut as we are lead to believe". IF it turns out to be true that Rangers did file incorrect contract documents with the SFA/SPL won't this open Rangers up to potentially severe sanctions such as stripping of past titles?

There is precedent in football for deducting points retroactively for playing incorrectly registered players (see Sion) and for stripping of previous titles for actions of bringing game into disrepute and "criminal actions of directors" (see Juventus). So I would question on what legal basis is there that it could be concluded that there is "no chance" of titles being stripped?

Posted by George on 03/11/2012

I agree with most of what you write but do think that other clubs will impose as much punishment as possible, because after hearing other chairman speak in public, I can only guess what their actual thoughts are. Also if we are not saved in some form or another up to 50,000 punters are lost to the economy of Scottish football.

Posted by Thomas B on 03/11/2012

Excellent article. A very clear and measured summary. I admire your objectivity in these difficult times.

Posted by Tom McArdle on 03/11/2012

An article well written and of good balance Douglas. Regarding the stripping of championships, if found guilty, well yes there is a precident that was set by Marsailles, they were stripped of titles when found to have been indulging in financial irregularities, sound familiar ? The various football authorities in Scotland may (as they historically have done) avoid such steps. But EUFA will undoubtedly take a more aggressive stance.

Posted by Anonymous on 03/11/2012

mmmm....

Posted by The Blunderer on 03/11/2012

I'm a Celtic fan and having read your article I'd give it top marks, very objective, very informative and a very clear account of the direction your club is heading,

Personally I think if someone in authority at Ibrox would acknowledge wrong doing has been committed and offer up a public apology you would get heaps more support from the groundswell of Scottish football supporters including Celtic fans,

In the absence of any wrong doing acknowledgement however no supporters other than Rangers fans will care what happens to your club

Posted by Jim Black on 03/11/2012

Douglas

To give slightly more credence to your liquidation scenario can you name another major British football club that has been liquidated? Leeds United were the one that popped into my head but it was bought over by Ken Bates before liquidation. I honestly can't think of one.

Posted by The Blunderer on 03/11/2012

On a separate note you need to delete the first comment underneath your article, it completely undermines what you are trying to achieve IMO.

Posted by paul on 03/11/2012

come on douglas get grip lets all wait to find out what the outcome of this nonsense is gone to be in the coming months insrad of you simply trying to wind everyone whose actually effected by all this nonsense..
there's simply only one man to blame for all this mess and it simply speaks for it self one money grabbing arsehole mate it's craig whyte.. also i'm almost convinced that craig whyte.s in with peter lawwell..

Posted by JoeUSA on 03/11/2012

I am not a Rangers supporter and I can't comment on the accuracy of your analysis, but it seems sound, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I would say though, that you seem to think that Celtic will push for maximum punishment and the rest of the SPL want to break the Old Firm's hold on revenue sources, but I would think that every other club in Scotland would be firmly behind getting Rangers back to top flight prominence as quickly as possible because Rangers high profile and large support makes Scottish football relevant on the European and world stage. Celtic have as much to gain from meaningful Old Firm derbies and having Rangers in Europe as Rangers do. Football is no longer a purely domestic issue; you can see plenty of Rangers jerseys on fans in the US and around the world, but it's unlikely that those fans are going to start next season wearing Aberdeen or Hibs kits.

Posted by Joe on 03/11/2012

Regarding the meeting of the other 10 clubs it obviously to do with grabbing as much money as they can. I believe the sponsorship and tv monies should be more evenly distributed. But the problems of Scottish football run deeper than Rangers finances. There has to be a total revamp of the game. Young players need to be better nurtured, possibly a drafting system, more interaction and promotion of school football.
This is a once in a lifetime opportunity the overhaul the whole system. It's just a pity that it's taken Rangers situation to open the bloody thing up.

Posted by Greg Hoose on 03/11/2012

Douglas, where exactly does your confidence in the assertion that Titles will NOT be stripped come from?

Posted by Carlo melucci on 03/11/2012

What a loada Pish

Posted by Ger61 on 03/11/2012

Excuse the pun, but I feel its still all to play for, altho I agree Paul Murray and the Blue Knight dont seem to have much backing, so unless another whyte knight appears very soon Rangers are in deep shit! Again no one is going to 'invest' in a company with an unlimited tax liability hangin over them, the exposure is too risky!
But what isn't being investigated right now and is almost being brushed under the carpet is the SDM, CW relationship, what really went on. I believe that CW is a 'liquidator', brought in by SDM & Co to do the dirty deed, leaving their hands clean, then SDM and Co (Blue Knights) can snap up the assets less a tax liability thus saving over 70 million,and back in charge.

How can an ex-rangers directors, who was on the board during the big tax scam and subsequent contract abuse be part of another Rangers buyout.

Rangers needs to be in completely clean hands, not old corrupted hands.

While Rangers assets can be bought, can you really buy the history !

Posted by Paddybhoy on 03/11/2012

The author uses the word integrity numerous times in the above article which seems a little more than hypocritical. No one even remotely connected with RFC (in ADMINISTRATION) should ever mention integrity as this farce of a club has spent the last 140 years epitomising the very opposite of the term. From player bans based on religion to years spent evading tax to riots on foreign soil and a negative depressing brand of football RFC (in ADMINISTRATION) are anything but honorable so lets not talk about sporting integrity my dear Douglas.

Posted by Davie on 03/11/2012

Very balanced View. As celtic
Fan find very objective. Too much shite talked by both sides.
Will See
What Experts say. Hail hail

Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/12/2012

Thanks for the comments. Anything posted will go up provided it is not abusive.

There seem to be a few recurring themes in the comments so I will let them run and post something detailed later today.

Posted by W. I. Willows on 03/12/2012

It seems that all over football the Fit and Proper Person Test is a farce. Someone with the appearance of money have been able to take hold of some clubs and leave them in an administration lurch. Have the administrators or the courts gone after Whyte's holdings, if they exist? You only have to look at Portsmouth to see what can happen to Rangers. Sad that the FA and SPL take no blame for putting their stamp of authority on Mr. Whyte's takeover, but will certainly preside over whatever punishment meted out to RFC. Dodgy, that.

Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/12/2012

A few common points keep coming up:

Share sale
HMRC will not accept Craig Whyte continuing to be involved with Rangers. However, the administrators have no power to compel him to sell his shares. Despite this dear reader you will have noticed they are openly and repeatedly discussing a sale. This can only mean a sale of the business and assets. Like me they are of the opinion the club is more than the company.

Why would you want to buy the shares? The only reason is to minimise the football issues. There are no warranties and all manner of uncertainties. The key risk though is around Ticketus. If, and it remains an if, they have a claim to season ticket money they will have the lion's share of the income that underpins the business. How could you trade minus your main revenue? Presumably Paul Murray knows more than I do. Maybe there is nothing to be alarmed about in Ticketus being a major backer. I remain sceptical. Clearly so too do the administrators.

Liquidation
To clarify, the mechanics would see the business and assets sold by the administrators ie. everything that constitutes the club. This generates the pennies in the pound for the creditors. The players' contracts would be a part of the assets sold. What then remains is essentially the shell of the old company. It is at this point it is liquidated. Players therefore are not freed as they are not employed by the company when the company is liquidated. As before selling the club as a whole will generate more money than selling assets individually. (As ever with this stuff happy to be corrected by anyone who knows better)

Precedent
Marseille and Juventus have been brought up. Interesting as I cited them in my last blog. In both instances there was match fixing. Therefore they are not comparable. As ever I await a precedent on what is being suggested regarding taking away titles. Time, and a whole load of legal fees, will tell.

Fiorentina are the best example I can think of in terms of a "phoenix club"precedent. They went through an insolvency (I acknowledge the UK and Italian systems have differences) and were reformed as Fiorentina Viola in Seria C2. I don't recall when we played them in the UEFA Cup Semi anyone suggesting this was not the club once made famous by Batistuta, do you?

Closer to home I am struggling to find the exact details (though would welcome them from any fans) but how about Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club (1986) Limited? Clearly a newco. Clearly too nobody in English football has any trouble with the concept this is the same club as the one which won the league three times in the 1950s.

Blame
I dealt in detail in my last blog with this so am not about to recover old ground. Let us instead set aside Rangers and consider the wider economy. It is generally accepted the blame for the current recession/depression sits on the shoulders of big business, big governments and big banks. However, there is an argument to be made for society as whole being responsible. Ever growing consumerism and cheap money were embraced well beyond the confines of the City of London. If you personally feel enormous remorse for having had a 0% credit card, or benefiting from a new sofa on a cheap finance deal, or getting yourself on the housing ladder with a no deposit mortgage then feel free to tell me as a Rangers fan this current mess is my fault. If not then gie us peace.

Posted by Jim Black on 03/12/2012

Douglas said:

"However, the administrators have no power to compel him (Craig Whyte) to sell his shares. "

If he owns the club money, and he apparently does, and refuses to pay then I believe his shareholding is in jeopardy.

Its interesting that the administorator, Paul Clark, said yesterday Craig Whyte is an irrelevance. I don't believe the administrator would make such a statement without very good reason. He would lose a lot of credibility if it turned out to be wrong.

Posted by paul on 03/12/2012

Douglas cameron, where on earth do you get all of the information from mate you dont halve talk a load a s### mate, who do you think the taxman is his name is mr craig whyte incase you forgot they rule glasgow pishy celtic and rangers mate all am gone to say douglas cameron and the rest of the celtic fan base just watch your step in the future because history repeats its self time and time again to football teams and just one other thing glasgow rangers will survive for years to come guys and dont every forget it...

Posted by Chris on 03/12/2012

If some Rangers players apparently had two contracts, then isn't it more than likely that it existed in many other clubs too..

Posted by Anonymous on 03/12/2012

douglas cameron you dont halve talk aload a bull who the hell are you a spokes person for the rest of the celtic idiots get grip and let the experts get to the bottom of all this nonsense and do there jobs without trying to get everyone else wound up you idiot....

Posted by Kenny on 03/12/2012

What about Airdrie United which were formed after Airdrieonians went bust in 2002? It would seem that at least Wikipedia treats them as 2 different football clubs with 2 separate entries. Any information predating 2002 is excluded from the Airdrie Utd records and is therefore not part of the same club history. I for one don't regard them as the same club that, for instance, had relative success under Alex MacDonald in the 90s. Will have to see if the same applies to Fiorentina on Wiki. If I haven't said it before...EXCELLENT BLOG!

Posted by Kenny on 03/12/2012

Just one more thing...what would happen to the Rangers brand under newco, club name, badge etc. Could the newco be able buy it back? And in reference to previous post AFC Fiorentina and the old Fiorentina are dealt in the same entry by Wikipedia...strange. Their history, unlike Airdrie Utd's therefore, is regarded as being intact.

Posted by the_sweenster on 03/12/2012

Fine article, obvious passion for your club, and not listening to the drivel from mainstream media, or the wild extremes of some commentaries.

The stripping of titles is a big unknown, and will depend on which side of the fence you sit, but I suspect the eyes of UEFA will want whatever the correct punishment is properly applied, and that may (/may not) mean losing titles.

I cannot see Romanov voting in favour of a newco, and this will impact any deal, Hearts must feel hard done, if the alleged side payments are seen as unfair sporting advantage for Rangers. Lets face it he dislikes the glasgow clubs.

Posted by Jim Black on 03/12/2012

I honestly beleive both RangersTaxCase.com and Douglas Cameron are completely delusional. Both think liquidation is inevitable but that buyers would be interested in a NewCo. But the penalties for liquidation are catastrophic

ie.
1) Starting at the bottom of the SFL (if you are lucky)
2) Out of Europe for 3 years. Even this is irrelevant if starting at the bottom of the SFL.


I believe anyone interested in buying Rangers will not be interested in a NewCo. The amount of value that will be lost will be enormous and I think it would make infinetly more sense to rescue the current club.

Im a Rangers season ticket holder and Ive pledged 2 grand in return for shares in the club. If the other 40,000 season ticket holders did the same thats £80M. OK some wont have 2 grand but there will be some big-hitters able to put in millions. I don't think its a big ask to raise £75M. And, unlike Douglas Cameron, I think fans would do absolute anything to avoid liquidation.

Posted by Andy's dads Andy on 03/12/2012

Can't believe there are still jokers on here in denial, just because the blogger has written an honest piece and refused to avoid the realities of the shambles we're in some folk have him in with Celtic!

As far as Kennys points go I may be wrong but the reason Airdrieonians and Airdrie Utd are two separate entities without adjoining history is that when Airdrieonians liquidated the new owners bought Clydebank out of administration to secure a place in the Scottish league renamed them Airdrie Utd and moved them to Airdrie, a new Ckydebank then formed and still play in the junior leagues.

Posted by craig cairns on 03/13/2012

ive got to say its refreshing to finally see a blog from a rangers fan who's trying to be frank and honest about the state the clubs in and what the outcome could really be!! great read enjoyed it bud! only thing is some one pointed out that titles can be stripped from rangers its the only thing u missed out! god bless cairnsy bhoy

Posted by Jim Black on 03/13/2012

Frank and honest or defeatist and scaremongering?

Try telling Paul Murray, his consortium, and the thousands of fans who will subscribe for shares that liquidation is inevitable.

Ive read Douglas' post again and he even admits he doesn't have a clue what is going on. So how he comes to the conclusion liquidation is inevitable is beyond me.

Posted by Douglas Cameron on 03/13/2012

Jim I have to take issue with that. With so many variables and so many issues likely to end up in litigation nobody can give you a definitive answer on every aspect of this situation. The number of unknowns is precisely what makes the business and assets deal the simplest means to ensure the club can continue and remove Craig Whyte. Again as a basic principle admins can't sell shares. The head of ey's insolvency department was in the Scotsman today making that very point.

Regarding Paul Murray I would tell him nothing but I would ask him why I should trust or invest in someone who was on the old board for what 5 years plus? I would ask him how someone who will not pass a fit and proper test is in any way credible? I would ask him to explain why ticketus being involved is a good thing? All I read is the strength of their finances. How would we trade when they would continue to have a call on the majority of season ticket money for at least 3 seasons?

Posted by Jim Black on 03/13/2012

I agree liquidation is the simplest solution. Its also the ultimate end-game, an unmitigated, unqualified disaster.

I'm not interested in a new Rangers with no history and no trophies. A club that rents Ibrox, rents Murray Park and plays Stenhousemuir and East Stirling. It beggars belief you think this is the likely solution.

Ticketus being involved is a good thing because they have £18M on the line and they will do anything they can to get their money back. And that means keeping the current club alive. Obviously they originally structured the deal to make a whopping profit on their £18M. But now they will just be happy to get their money back. Whats the alternative? They'd only get a fraction back on liquidation. So they will work with the new team to get paid back gradually over a number of years. It will work.

Posted by llapd on 03/14/2012

Albion Rovers giving it to Rangers on a miserable wet afternoon at Cliftonhill - happy days!

Posted by Michael on 03/16/2012

Liquidation of Rangers ends the SPL. It becomes a one-team league for half a decade, if not more -- and, at that point, kiss your TV money goodbye.

So where does Celtic end up in the English hierarchy when this all ends? That's where they're going.

Posted by shaun the brummie on 06/03/2012

collenan.....the english will stop rangers and celtic.....and michael,celtic would be advised to join the irish leagues.as we'll have no anti english,provo loving,pub bomber worshipping,terrorist supporting organisation like celtic in english football.celtic are not only paranoid,they're deluded,hypocritical,liars aswell......so f**k off.

Posted by shaun the brummie on 07/24/2012

michael..the hypocricy of celtics fans is something to behold.in one breath they go from saying rangers should drop to the bottom of the scottish football system as it would be unfair on other teams in the lower divisions.then they go without breath how celtic should be allowed into english football at the highest level possible,leaping over hundreds of more deserving english teams.....START AT THE BOTTOM

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