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Posted by Daniel Harris on 01/08/2010

When Morrissey declared that he had forgiven Jesus, he was criticised by some for daring to suggest that could possibly be necessary. In similar vein, there’ll doubtless be plenty who’ll criticise me when I say that I haven’t, and will never, forgive Fergie.

Even though I’ve spoken them hundreds of times over the last four years, those are words that never flow easily. When the bible is read in synagogues, it’s sung according to a melody known as the trup, with each word marked by a particular note - one of which, the shalshelet, appears only five times in the entire Torah. It’s use is to indicate a pause, whilst its subject suffers the agonising turmoil of what’s termed a sin against the soul - when Joseph rejects the advances of Potiphar’s outrageously attractive wife, for example. And that’s how it feels to despise the man responsible for a reality so inconceivable that even Joseph himself couldn’t have dreamt it.

That heroes always let you down is a cliché for a reason, but even so, you’d have thought that Fergie had racked up sufficient credit to remain one forever. Although Busby status became unobtainable following the unsued-upon allegations made by eminent United historian Michael Crick, via the BBC’s Panorama programme, those purported indiscretions are dwarfed by achievements that won him significant slack. However his ushering in of the takeover reeled it all in and then some, imperilling the club in a way that was not only unacceptable but entirely avoidable.

Rewind to early 2005 and things looked a little different, even though horse semen and money appeared to have become more important than the famous Man United, evidenced not just through the dispute over Rock of Gibraltar, but the disgusting signings and performances that defined that period. Yet even then, and as the song goes, every single one of us still loved Alex Ferguson; not as blindly as before, but nonetheless with devotion. A hefty part of the reason why was the following quotation, dated November 2004:

"There's a stronger rapport between the club and the fans than there's ever been. We are both of a common denominator; we don't want the club to be in anyone else's hands. That is the way that the club stands with that. I support that."

Fairly categorical, you might think, and indeed it was - until it wasn't. Some might say that Fergie had no choice but to renege on his word because his job became dependent on it, but I'm not having that; had he clearly stated a refusal to work with the Glazers, the banks would never have lent them the money. But at the same time, he'd have known that the Glazers needed him more than the plc, so he stayed silent to protect his own position, already more heavily fortified than a man with a hip flask full of malt and a packet full of Nik Naks. And supporters have been paying for it, financially and emotionally, ever since.

Yes, there's plenty the authorities could have done, and yes, David Gill could have kept his word too, but we never expected we could rely on them. Fergie, on the other hand, was one of us, the proudly socialist man of the people who promised never to forget his roots, nor the backing he was given by United's support in his ridiculous dispute with Coolmore.

Fast forward a few months to August 2005, and United were in Budapest to play Debrecen. Happening upon the official party at the airport, a disgruntled fan took issue with Fergie over the takeover. The club's official website reports that the following was said:

Fan: "You've f***** us over too, you could've spoken out about it."
Sir Alex: "I've got close friends who've been working with me here for 15 years. They come first in all of this."
Fan: "So don't the fans come first?"
Fergie: "Well I suppose they do come somewhere."
Fan: "You what? That's well out of order."
Sir Alex: "If you don't like it, go and watch Chelsea."
Fan: "The fans have been screwed right over. It costs me over £20 a game as it is."
Sir Alex: "It costs more than that at Chelsea - go and watch them."

In one short conversation, a legacy two decades years in the building, not just tarnished, but forever buried under a mountain of turds. Despite the pompous pontifications in his autobiography, to Fergie football is evidently not about more than on-pitch accomplishment; identity, community and belonging are insignificant when compared to the needs of his little coterie, which the cynical might claim is comprised of but one person.

So it is that blame for anything going wrong can be legitimately attributed to him. Lose at home to Leeds? Well if Fergie had spoken out, you can be sure there'd have been a better striker on the bench than Michael Owen, who has missed a quite remarkable number of chances since he began infesting the club with his presence. This week, Owen was advised that to galvanise his career, he should address matters of feng shui – by Geoff Boycott of all people, not exactly renowned for the lightness of his touch, shall we say. Anyway, although I can't comment about the positioning of the furniture in Owen's mansion, United's squad would certainly look more centred and aesthetic without him in it.

Notwithstanding Fergie's duplicity, the eleven he selected ought to have been more than capable of disposing of Dirty Leeds, well though they played. Vidic pulling out in the warm up wasn't helpful – according to the ever-insightful Mike Phelan, "there was something wrong with his body" – but it was reasonable to expect better from Wes Brown, who endured one of the periodic nightmares that reminded everyone why he was displaced by Vidic in the first place.

Talking of Phelan, one can only wonder how on earth he has risen to become Fergie's number two (and yes, there's a childish joke there).

With the manager an infrequent training ground presence, and renowned neither as coach nor tactician, it would be handy if the person charged with so doing was properly qualified, rather than happening to be around when the previous incumbent left. Carlos Queiroz certainly wasn't everyone's favourite, often blamed for an unnecessarily conservative approach, but at least while he was around, the team defended properly, and it's hard to think of any players who have improved significantly since he left.

Perhaps the major difference between this United squad and those of recent years is the number of players able to make the crucial difference when things aren't going well. This season, only Berbatov, Giggs and Rooney have proved themselves in that category, whereas in the past, there've been a few on the pitch, with a few more waiting on the bench. It's now twice that chasing a goal, Gibson has either been left on or brought on, in forlorn hope that he belts one in from distance, the kind of quiet desperation that is really not the United way.

All in all, there've been better weeks to be a Red - with the press finally noticing what anyone with a brain could see in 2005, reminders of the of the debt and the future it promises are everywhere. Luckily, amusement lurks in the usual places, so thanks more than ever to Jamie Carragher and Manchester City. The former, interviewed following Liverpool's draw with Reading came up with this:

"I've been to Cardiff a few times but I'd love to get to Wembley. My son is six or seven years old and I'd love to take him to Wembley to watch Liverpool".

Not having kids, I confess to being slightly out of my element here, but after conducting a straw poll amongst friends who do, I can reveal that not a single one was stumped by the age of their offspring.

Meanwhile, now that City's buy-all-the-domestic-players-not-good-enough-for-the-best-teams plan has failed, they're pursuing the buy-once-great-now-hasbeens route. Rejected by Juan Sebastian Veron, despite Mancini informing us that "all the players want to join Manchester City", instead they've signed Patrick Vieira, who didn't even offer the usual massive club bluster, simply admitting that he needs first-team football if he's to play in the World Cup. No doubt when this policy doesn't work either, it'll be followed by the buy-anyone-young-who-once-had-a-good-game approach.

Still, with the money that City now have, a trophy of some sort will probably arrive at some point, but even when it does, it'll be utterly meaningless. There's a difference between wealth a club has earned on its own merits, and wealth it's been donated like some sort of charity case; it renders any subsequent success as plastic as Eastlands' famous empty seats. And for anyone pointing out that United now have those too, you know exactly who to blame.

Comments

Posted by Ed S on 01/08/2010

God this guy is an idiot - i've chanced through a few of your bile ridden articles over the past few months and the only conclusion i can come to is that you dont like anyone let alone the club you profess to support. how about you stop whinging like a fox news commentator over the 'good old days' and how Alex Ferguson is a let down to United (seriously - listen to yourself) and say something positive - if not to balance out your frankly awful arguments against your own club, then to somehow let us believe you are not a covert scouser . Thank god you never do come to any home games because a chance meeting with you would probably have me either committing suicide or end up with me putting your head through a window. But enough bile from me... im actually beginning to sound like you now! i hope you enjoy the game this weekend, if thats even possible.

Posted by Omorogbe on 01/08/2010

YEah we know who to blame... I can't ever bring myself to blaming Fergie (regardless of Budapest), so I blame the glazers... can't united fans everywhere take up arms and force the Glazers to sell the club to us and be run like Barcelona??
It's easy to go Dubai but that will end one day...
But if the club is owned by the fans, most of it's profit goes to running the club. Meaninig we get run like a gr8 club that we are

Posted by Mike on 01/08/2010

can someone explain to me what horrible things the Glazer's have done to to United? Three straight titles,two straight Champions League finals with one win. What the hell are you guys complaining about? They bought Berbatov for a record fee. How is that not spending money? It's not their fault he didn't work out. They showed the willingness to spend money. You British fans are ridiculous. And this horrible squad you speak of is 2 points back in the league. Nothing is good enough for you and it is pitiful.

Posted by Jarrod AL US on 01/08/2010

Well said Mike. There are about 1000 other English football teams who would gladly trade places with United. Everything is relative. It will be interesting to read your blog after Fergie has been gone for a few years and United are really suffering.

Posted by Ted on 01/08/2010

I actually feel very sorry for you sir. I've been a United fan since '83 and seen the downs and ups of the club yet I still back them.
The shame now is that instead of leaving a team which has clearly left wounds you seem focused on causing as much harm as possible to them. Though the most you seem capable is not attending home games and slandering any and all faults.
SAF will go down as the Greatest of All Time regardless of your opinions due to his record. I wonder if you feel better when United lose. It seems that way to me from your bile in your articles. Please, for your sake and ours, find a team that will make you happy or take a break from the game.

Posted by Eric on 01/08/2010

Well written! It's lovely to read once in a while an honest, observant opinion of someone who is closely invested in the thick of things about Man U instead of the usual glorified press propaganda.

Even better was the perfect encapsulation of why the phenomenon of "billionaire's spoiled pet poodle" clubs is destroying football and should be abolished.

Posted by Who Are Ya!? on 01/08/2010

Temporary success isn't worth a Leeds-style decline.

Think a bit more critically. I'm sure someone said "What do you mean something's not right at Leeds!? We're in European competition aren't we?"

We all know how that ended.

Finance is the foundation of a club. People who think otherwise are naive.

Posted by Devin on 01/08/2010

It really comes down to the interaction Fergie had with the fan:

Fan: "So don't the fans come first?"
Fergie: "Well I suppose they do come somewhere."
Fan: "You what? That's well out of order."
Sir Alex: "If you don't like it, go and watch Chelsea."
Fan: "The fans have been screwed right over. It costs me over £20 a game as it is."
Sir Alex: "It costs more than that at Chelsea - go and watch them."

That's bullocks right there!

Posted by nick on 01/08/2010

well i honestly dont know what to think. i look at leeds and while i would hate to be in league one and i cant imagine going through what they went through there is something to admire about them. they still get huge gates despite being in a shit division. there is still passion. they do things the right way now. and that result was their reward for pulling together and sticking together.

i feel like united has lost something. yes weve won the league a load. yes we continually go far in the champions league. but part of me thinks its like a bubble waiting to burst. it just isnt real. it doesnt feel real. i remember fergies fledglings and that WAS real. while i hate to sound wanting more i do want more. i mean OWEN is at the club. that makes me want to throw up. its disgusting. where is utds soul?

Posted by Ian on 01/08/2010

To Mike : "can someone explain to me what horrible things the Glazer's have done to to United". Are you for real?!Oh yes, you must be American, that explains it.
"Hey Joel"
"Yes, daddy Malcolm"
"I have a swell idea... lets buy 'ManU'"
"Yeeha Pa, lets take out some ridiculously expensive loans, pile them onto the club..."
"So if we can't pay, we are not liable"
"Yeah, then we'll force ticket prices up to the pepsi max... squeeze those pips..The fans can afford it"
"We'll have 3 times as much turnover... just enough to pay off the interest on those loans"
"What about new players?"
"We'll give them just enough to keep the cash coming in..., well we won't actually let them spend any of the profit on players. They'll have to sell first"
"Great plan Dad, get those dumb Brit fans to pay for us buying the club"
"Good Job"
"Good Job"
The Glazers. A cancer on the club. Is that clear enough for you Mike?. The success is despite their ownership and could have been prevented by Fergie

Posted by vj on 01/08/2010

People like Mike here revel on short-term glories. Glazer bought this player, Glazer spent money here-there... but wait, its all Uniteds money. All the profits last years have gone into servicing the debts, in fact only for paying the interests!! Imagine if even half of the 70million each year was additionally invested in team.

Wake up, open your eyes.

Posted by Stephen on 01/09/2010

Daniel, get a grip man. At the end if the day it is just a game and anyone who thinks otherwise
is kidding themselves. Football is business in the top two divisions. As you get lower down the leagues it is more about community etc. but were those lower league clubs to get to the Prem they too would become all about the money. Just enjoy watching the games and let it go.

Ian, answer this question please: Why exactly do you believe the Glazers purchased Manchester United?

Posted by CC on 01/09/2010

What's funny is you guys complaining over the "lack of investing in the team." It's like a Yankees fan crying about not buying every single great player.

I'm not saying the Glazers don't have faults, or that the debt isn't horrible, but seriously. They spend more than most of the rest of the clubs in the Prem.

Posted by Mike on 01/09/2010

Where do you want that money to go? You seem to saying that money/buying players=success. But both Man City and Real Madrid are struggling this season. Man U has gone the route of spending money on players (Berbatov) and failed. Just because they aren't spending money doesn't mean they aren't making their squad better. Why buy a player just to buy one when you have young players who need a chance to prove themselves. Man U did the same thing with Ronaldo, and I think that worked out ok. All these Man U fans just seem to be jealous of other clubs because they're getting new players when every other club in the world, minus Barca, is jealous of your success. Shut up and appreciate the best manager in the world.

Posted by AV on 01/09/2010

Its there anyway that we as fans have this fool removed as the "club commentator" or "blogger" or whatever. You have nothing in common with any United fan, in fact I'm convinced you're a scouser. Have some self respect and quit.

Posted by Singh on 01/09/2010

Obviously there are soo many takes on the glazer takeover issue but what is set to be seen is financial doom.Fergei failing to sign has been seen as a catalyst to the believe that all our money is going to refinance their loan.

On the other hand are many who believe we are not in a dangerous position as we have just won the league 3times in a row and in 2 other champs league final.

I agree that financial clouds can cluster rapidly and we mite be heading down like Leeds or its just a threat.I also believe that we are in good position,and as fake as it might seem to be,we are but someday we wont be winning things anymore.

I am from Malaysia and when i was young,I had to sneak out n walk a mile or two in the dark to catch a United game live on the tele,all im telling is I am a true fan.RAIN OR SHINE,WITH MONEY OR IN DEBT,WINNING OR IN DIVISION THREE,IF YOU LOVE MANCHESTER UNITED,THEN U STAND RIGHT BESIDE IT TROUGH STORMS OR SUNSHINES AND KISS THE BADGE COZ WE LOVE MAN UNITED!!

Posted by Matthew Galea on 01/09/2010

Christ almighty. The only dialogue you have in there comes AFTER the takeover. Put yourself in Fergie's shoes. The club has been taken over, and there's not a whole lot you could, or could have (to say a manage could have halted a takeover is absolute nonsense) done about it, and here is this fan taking his frustrations out on you, asking you all these awkward questions. Okay, perhaps he could handle it better than that, but still, it's just crap to pin the whole takeover on Fergie, and furthermore to "never forgive" him for some poorly chosen words.

I'm not going to toe the line with others here. I think you make some decent points sometimes, but this post is absolute drivel. Every word of it.

Blaming a takeover on a manager...unheard of.

Posted by Matthew Galea on 01/09/2010

Oh, and I forgot, to all you commentors bashing out on this guy, I would advise you stop calling the club "Man U". It makes you all look quite stupid when you reference MANCHESTER UNITED (oh jeez, God forbid we actually spell out the clubs name), as "Man *" and then accuse this guy of being a scouser.

Any fan of the club should know that that's an extremely derogatory term for the club. Look it up.

Posted by Fireballz on 01/09/2010

These are quite frankly the worst arguements I have ever read. You know nothing about finance, debt, bonds, or even economics. Your lack of education shows in what you write. Listen closely to this statement. "It is not in the Glazers interest to plunge Manchester United into financial ruin". You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to the debt the Glazers have brought on, let alone what you say about Sir Alex. So, I ask you to save yourself from being embarassed again and don't write anything about Manchester United or anyone associated wih the club. You have forgotten what it is to be a football fan, and because of this, you are bitter. United will eventually repay all debts, and that is the day you will be sad and lonely, as you will be haunted by the day you turned your back on United.

Posted by fc united fan on 01/09/2010

lower divisions are for community?
top two are for making money?

how warped is that?

standing in the stretty in 1975 watching United parade around the 2nd division cup was community!!!
watching FC United at blackpool in 06 with 4500 like minded reds felt and was one and the same.
watching last Sunday was as painful as watching United going down.

"They wanted it more" was the excuse reeled out.
I'd take any excuse other than that, and its quite clear how the lack of vision from fergie is culpable in that excuse, and make no mistake that is the excuse given.

This IS united. this lot lost to journeymen. why is this situation not beyond criticism?
that good old "buck stops here" springs to mind......

Posted by JSA on 01/09/2010

This blog is absolutely spot on.

Posted by Ian on 01/09/2010

Agree with Matthew, if you call Manchester United 'Man U' you are not a fan. 'United' or 'Man United' are the only acceptable shorthand to proper fans. Those of you defending the gimps on here and slating the blogger are utterly clueless (look up the 'net' expenditure since they took over, how can a club as big as United, with the highest turnover in the world spend less than a club like Fulham in real terms?). Where has the money gone - even you Americans aren't dumb enough to not know the answer. They have put the club in greater danger than it has been in recent memory - the day they sell up to somebody who actually has their own money will be a great day for United. And it's not really 'just a game', it's actually a community. This is something that Americans in particular will never ever understand, stick to your franchises and pointless statistics.

Posted by fc united fan on 01/09/2010

76 thousand of you day trippers stood up when we sang United not for sale. 32,000 of us put our money where our mouths were and bought shares in Shareholders United.
dont understand debt?

please......

I suggest you go have a look at the books of Red football and reconsider the stupidest pro glazerite clap trap i have ever read.

the PIC and hedge fund payments when they come due will kill United. they walk away Scott free.

"It is not in the Glazers interest to plunge Manchester United into financial ruin"
what Daniel pointed out that went way over your tiny head was....

It was never in Manchester United's interests for the glazers to plunge United into debt!!

Posted by david on 01/09/2010

ok, well first off, no one goes into a business on the short term to lose money and no one goes into a business for the long term and expect to make money right off. The glazers havent done so bad, not like they've made united less attractive to sponsors. So united don't use some money for two transfer windows when they already have a big squad and believe they can do well with the squad there. Who would want to buy in a market where they paid how much for Lescott? SAF is smart there is no value right now, CR's fee is still fresh on peoples minds and everyone thinks that ok a player half the caliber of CR should ask for half his fee, its a ridiculous market. Sorry but Ribery hasn't lit up the Bundeslgia like CR did the EPL, Ageuro hasn't put in 42goals in a season like CR did but they are all looking for huge fees. Its smart not to buy right not so United take a season where they may not win the league can't win them all.

Posted by Oli on 01/10/2010

You can argue whether the author understands debt and finance all you like, but you'd be hard pressed to question David Conn or Robert Peston's expertise.


http://www.guardianhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/01/can_man_utd_spend.html

.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2010/jan/06/manchester-united-glazers-debt

Posted by Matthew on 01/11/2010

All this American bashing from some English fans is a shame. I have to say I'm disappointed. Please remember, if it wasn't for America you very well could be watching the English Bundesliga!

Posted by abiola aloba on 01/11/2010

I live in Nigeria and have supported United for 18 years. The Glazers i sense are going to sell shares when the time is right. Go public. Now imagine them selling just 40% of their stake to a host of shareholders at say 5pounds apiece which was just about what MU shares were trading at at the time of the sale. 100million ordinary shares of 50pence each at 3 pounds per share as a new IPO would make them a fortune. Either that or I am no good at finance. United would never be in debt for long. the club is too valuable. When the came to Nigeria, despite shoddy ticketing they still pulled over 35,000 fans and my football paper fan jam paid a tidy sum to be a part sponsor. So leave SAF. He is only human after all.

In the end, he has won it all and we will will some more still. Titel number 19 anyone?

Posted by Beitse on 01/15/2010

Posted by Mike 1 week ago
can someone explain to me what horrible things the Glazer's have done to to United? Three straight titles,two straight Champions League finals with one win. What the hell are you guys complaining about?

Ok heres a list Mike.
1. Hostile takeover of a debt free club and laden it with massive debts.
2. Increase ticket prices so that the ordinary working class fan as well as young people can no longer afford to go to Old Trafford.
3. Infest Old Trafford with corporates and day tripping tourists, which contributes to a declining atmosphere.
4. Lead the club into a probable period of decline, due to the fact money is used to pay off debts instead of investing in the team.
You say fans are unreasonable jealous? well fact is in order to keep up with the best in Europe money must be spent. (Oh and Ronaldo wasnt a kid off the production line as you say, he was over £12 million)
It's not down to the Glazers that trophies have been won, its Fergie.

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