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Posted by Daniel Harris on 11/13/2009

Fergie clearly doesn't like Radiohead, because if he did, he'd know to leave the karma police to their own devices. Instead, he criticised Alan Wiley's fitness, provoking the inevitable retaliation. "This is what you get when you mess with us" indeed.

Were I to believe in karma, this would be in some way placating, but I don't, so it isn't. That leaves me with coincidence and luck, not enough to fully explain why in games against Liverpool and Chelsea, United have been on the wrong end of almost every decision remotely givable against them. That isn't to say I'm suggesting any kind of collusion - Martin Atkinson is no Edmond Dantes – but neither is it controversial to state that if you continually aggravate people, they will become subconsciously prejudiced against you. If Fergie were on trial, you'd not be finding Brian Hill, David Elleray and Phil Dowd in the jury.

The probable goal and definite penalty Sunday's linesman denied United was enough to make you wonder what the point of them is. In any case, the limitations of human vision mean that giving offside will almost always be a matter of judgment rather than of fact. This doesn't especially bother me, but on behalf of those eager to eliminate human error, you'd think that the technology exists for each player's boot to be fitted with a sensor, linked to a receiver on the touchline able to tell us definitively what it and isn't offside.

The other major point of contention was Chelsea's winner, in the course of which they received the benefit of three consecutive calls.

Perhaps it was a foul on Cole (always to be applauded) but once the resultant free kick came in, two subsequent infringements were missed. I appreciate it's crowded in there and that things happen quickly, but you'd expect at least one of the officials to notice at least one of them, and act upon it.

That said, they can't have been expected to clear the cross, which in a sense is the crucial point. Despite being the smoother, more imaginative side, United didn't play well enough to guarantee victory regardless of refereeing incompetence, and losing with that caveat was far less annoying than losing as a result of not turning up, as happened against Liverpool.

Prior to the game, the majority of the focus had been on Chelsea's purported superiority, the speculation about what would happen if United were badly beaten. That was never likely, a ropey display at Anfield evidence of nothing other than a ropey display at Anfield. The best performance I've seen so far this season, and by a long way, was United's display at Spurs, and there's been enough other examples of quality to suggest that the team's the right selection away from being extremely handy.

A fair amount of chatter surrounded its depleted back four, also misdirected. When Wes Brown is fit and paying attention, he's an exceptional defender able to cope with the very best attackers, and his performance in the second leg of the Barca semi in 2008 is easily the best individual effort from a United defender in the last few seasons.

Next to him, Jonny Evans has already done well enough times to look like he might be up to the task regularly, a proper footballer playing with the assurance of someone who knows he's good enough. Excellent but flawed last season, generally much better this, he plays with an intelligence that you'd expect from some with 4A* and 5As, and yes, despite falling standards, typing that gave me a lot of pleasure.

Playing a position that takes almost as long to master as Othello, his consistency is no small achievement. Rio Ferdinand, for example, had been identified as a talent from a very young age, but was 24 before he was anywhere near established. It's also nice to see two reserves, both United schooled, able to step in and excel. Had Ancelotti any sense, he'd have piled Drogba and Anelka on top of O'Shea and told the others to come from deep, but then had he any sense he'd also not have devised a midfield configuration that emaciates the attributes of all who play in it - irrelevant against rubbish but significant against another decent outfit.

Similarly, United's balance is also not quite right. With Giggs enduring an acrylic afternoon and the other midfielders infrequent scorers, it was hard to see where a goal would come from if Rooney didn't deal with it. Some time spent honing the system might change that, although in the long term this would be at the expense of Berbatov, injured at the weekend.

It'll never happen, but one way around it would be to retain the three-man midfield and use Rooney as its primary attacker (although this might lead to him spending most of the season suspended). The only other way of squeezing in two strikers would be to omit Carrick and go 4-2-3-1.

Otherwise, it'll be important to bring in Obertan for Valencia, who is improving, but doesn't have the variety or versatility necessary to play as one of three floating forwards. With the opposition fielding no discernable left winger, it would also have been worth being bold and include a more attacking right back, something I seem to mention almost every week.

In the news after the game was a group of attention-seeking City fans - formed following Adebayor's deserved suspension - with the aim of pointlessly haranguing the FA to punish all others who in their opinion have transgressed; a more ridiculous waste of time you could not wish to see, as Barry Davies might say. It ought to be impossible to believe that people of this ilk exist, but it isn't and they do. I'd always assumed that Del Amitri's "Angry from Manchester" was a City fan - lonely tonight, lonely tomorrow, and to whom nothing ever happens - and this proves it.

While I've been sitting writing, two more stories have broken, so a bit about those. Fergie's denigration of Alan Wiley has landed him a two game touchline ban with a further two suspended, along with a hefty fine, which seems fair enough. But it still remains unclear as to what exactly the punishment is for. If it's for making a serious accusation that turned out to be false, then ok, but if it's simply for making a serious accusation, then not ok. People are entitled to speak their mind openly, all the more so when they operate in the public arena, and if they're right, then it's the subject of the complaint who should face sanctions.

Equally troubling is what was said by the silk conducting matters: "Each member of the commission recognised Sir Alex Ferguson's achievements and stature within the game. Having said that, it was made clear to Sir Alex that with such stature comes increased responsibilities".

Yes, you read that right; according to Peter Griffiths, QC, not only is there no equality before the law, but it applies most strictly to those who have achieved most. Utterly, utterly astonishing - unless, of course, there's something we don't know, and Fergie is actually Peter Parker in disguise.

Meanwhile, an altruistic quest to make the Premier League more money has just failed, a majority of clubs vetoing a plan to invite Rangers and Celtic to join. Of course the fringe benefit of ring-fencing investments by doing away with relegation was but a lucky chance. I note, though, the plan didn’t mention redistributing the increased wealth to supporters forced to hike to Scotland twice a season.

In any case, and Berwick Rangers aside, allowing teams to cross borders would set far too dangerous a precedent. From a purely competitive standpoint, the Old Firm would probably raise the standard, but so would Real Madrid and Barcelona. And bearing in mind what's happened when Rangers and Celtic have come to Manchester, having either one or other infesting England on a weekly basis doesn't sound like a very good way of increasing the peace.

Talking of the Old Firm, a new candidate emerged for this year's Barry Ferguson Lack of Self-Knowledge Award, the eponymous inaugural recipient honoured for this gem:

"People always say it's a shame someone as talented as Ryan Giggs or George Best before him never played in a World Cup or European Championship and I don't want my name to be added to that list".

Anyway, his mantlepiece now passes to Kevin Davies, following this remarkable proclamation: "Recently it's been obvious that players have been told to make a meal of any contact and get me taken out of the game."

Actually Kevin, 49 goals in 351 Premier League appearances says that a team featuring you in one of its striking positions is a veritable boon for any opposing outfit. You are truly a worthy heir.

Comments

Posted by Anonymous on 11/13/2009

Conveniently forgotten in Ferguson's rants is the penalty and red card (to Evans) that Chelsea were denied, with an absurd yellow card then presented to Drogba for having the temerity to attack Evan's cleats with his chest!

Posted by twist on 11/13/2009

a pretty damn logical article, i truly enjoyed it, thanks for this. good piece!

Posted by duane weekes on 11/13/2009

mr.harris you are clearly a Manchester Fan ,i'm an Arsenal fan you are too bias in your conclusion my man i lost to Man U but in between lines the officiating against my club was still poor so what's your excuse again?
please take the decision loike men and stop this hog trough feeding to the public. how about Fergie escaping punishment for his mouth ? U Man U fans are never satisfied once u lose that i starting to C U don't have a Ronaldo anymore time to move and stop fretting .Take the defeat like Arsenal getting no call going for u when it just as perceivable as your penalty what about my ehh!

Posted by duane weekes on 11/13/2009

Yes me again stop talking about missing things when u won over a lot games the same callous way so crying on the referees and play to win cheat shotters(Man U).So u are saying that this only applies to Man U please come again!

Posted by Doug on 11/13/2009

nothing funnier than hearing a united fan complain about officiating.

Posted by Dyls on 11/14/2009

the assertion that "United have been on the wrong end of almost every decision remotely givable against them" is, frankly, ridiculous. One would have to look no further than Evan's whirling fly kick to Drogba's chest inside the penalty box, earning Drogba nothing but a yellow card for diving. So if both this and the goal decisions were reversed, it still would have resulted in 1-0 (assuming that Lampard didn't slip up like some chelsea players are prone to do in games vs. united.)

Fans are always convinced that the ref is working against their team; myself, sometimes, included. It is always easier to remember the heinous decision against you rather than the lucky break for your team. I have no doubt that the refs do the best that they can reasonably be expected to do. Of course, i'll still shout abuse at them.

Posted by Taxman on 11/14/2009

You truly are an arrogant, one eyed muppet. United will not win the league this year because of one thing and one thing only. The team is not good enough. Chelsea are far superior from front to back. Do your best to pull that massive chip off your shoulder and quit crying yourself to sleep at night because Ronaldo betrayed you. I'm tipping those Scouser hacks to finish above you.

Posted by Jeffery Wong on 11/14/2009

Yeah, That's fine with the punishment handed to Alex Ferguson, but the question still remains. Isn't there any transparent punishment for those "so called" referees. I fell that the refereeing standards are becoming lower and lower due to lack of transparency. We do know only this manager, that manager, this player, that player got punished. Nothing for referees. Everybody can easily see the stupid errors from some of the referees but no action. Are referees untouchable? Afterall, those who reveal their views and frustration only got punished. I believe, those top managers are victims of jelousy from people who now making a big fuss with it.

Posted by drew on 11/14/2009

Great piece, love the barry ferg award...
maybe a regular feature?

Posted by Western Tsogorani on 11/14/2009

Nice read once again Harris and I see that SAF has been punished for his frank opinion - something he believed at the time and I see why Big Sam or Arsene was not charged for what I believe were far worse comments against officials. The penalty was "Old Trafordish", WTF?

Posted by Super joe on 11/14/2009

What an amazing statement full of absolute horse manure: "People are entitled to speak their mind openly, all the more so when they operate in the public arena, and if they're right, then it's the subject of the complaint who should face sanctions."
Unfortunately that seems to be the problem at the moment. Everybody in the publcic arena speaks their mind openly, and rarely does any sense come out. Ferguson's rant against Wiley was a slur on his profession, and the FA were right to crack down on an unsubstantiated statement, with no proof to back it up. In fact the ProZone statements show Wiley ran further than any player.
If you were to state in a public forum or in print that an engineer or architect wasn't fit to do his job, despite his or her academic qualifications and years of experience, you wouldn't be long receiving a solicitor's letter for defamation or libel.
Added to this, it was clearly a ploy to distract from another poor Utd performance.
A bit more thought next time

Posted by Abe on 11/14/2009

Yes, yes. United were wronged again, Ayatollah Ferguson is right, blah blah. What you fail to add is that United played damn dirty. You should have had atleast 2 players sent off. Its a shock to me that Darren Fletcher is allowed to play the way he does with his continous pushing, pulling, nudging, clipping, all which the referee calls but never a card. Evans we need say nothing about. He should be suspended already. Not great play by either side, but a typical win for Chelsea. Never really saw any of the creativity and endeavor United required to win this one. Do you honestly think they were going to beat Chelsea by playing like Chelsea?? Either way Ferguson is having a bad season already. They may be doing well in the league, but they won't win it. They've already lost, although away, to their two biggest rivals and now the manager is suspended. The Champions League front doesn't look to promising either. Well, atleast Barca is still looking great...

Posted by Brent on 11/15/2009

Its not as if Manchester United haven't been on the better end of some questionable calls.

Posted by Rob on 11/15/2009

Obviously written by a United fan, you can tell because they whine about refs' decisions yet completely fail to mention Jonny Evans' double karate kick of Drogba. That was an intentionally violent foul, and Evans should have been sent off. Of course, people will say that Drogba is a diver and it serves him right nothing was given. In that case, it serves Fergie right the refs' decisions went against him and his team lost for constantly criticizing referees to deflect attention from his team. So, referee decisions went both ways and United fans should stop whining, if they are going to say Drogba deserves what he got then Fergie and United definitely deserve what they got.

Posted by Sonal Singh on 11/15/2009

If the referee was really that biased, how come Johnny Evans did not get the red card for kicking Drogba in the chest? Drogba ended up with the Yellow card instead!

"Yes, you read that right; according to Peter Griffiths, QC..." - If I read it right, it just means that Sir Alex should take things as they come just like everyone else does.

Much hue and cry is made about penalties not awarded to United... how about the stonewall denied to Arshavin at OT for Darren Fletcher's tackle.

Over the years, AF's outspoken and intimidatory style, probably, has been earning him most of the dubious decisions. And I like the fact that FA are taking action against this particular gimmick of his.

Posted by Gerakis100 on 11/15/2009

Ferguson's punishment is/will be fair if they treat other Managers the same way when they come out and attack ref's again this season. Benitez is bound to do it soon enough, probably Hughes and Wenger as well when the time is right, so then we can see if the punishment fits the crime

Posted by James on 11/15/2009

Daniel,taking on some of your points:
It smacks of fan paranoia to say Utd have lost on every decision that could go either way, and I'm sure that's not true. Evan's kick on Drogba is one high profile example but I'm sure there are plenty more. And Rooney's offside was the kind of mistake that is made every week on many grounds.

As far as the legal basis for charging Fergusson, he is bringing the game into disrepute. If his criticism is legitimate the proper thing to do is raise it quietly with the FA at the appropriate time, which he suggested he was doing. It is not appropriate to publicly make such accusations in the media, especially where, even if he was right, he's based it only on his impression, which is not good enough. Take it this way, if you had legitimate concerns about a collegue would you go public or raise it quietly?

As for his increased standing, if someone with his reputation brings the game into disrepute, it has more impact, therefore it is relevant.

Posted by Bernard de Robillard on 11/16/2009

I have stopped watching sports where the ref has too much say on the results as it does wreck the fairness of those.
If a soccer ref or linesman's fairness is not there they should be sacked. Some people gamble big on those games and decisions based on revenge is stealing from the gamblers.

Posted by Mike Schmidt on 11/16/2009

Ferguson absolutely deserves his punishment. He whines and attacks refs just about everytime United lose. If he would just accept that sometimes in football things don't go your way, and maybe admit that his team sometimes doesn't play well enough to deserve wins, he would stay out of trouble like the other managers.
Fergie is getting too whiny in his old age, and I'm glad the FA are taking steps to shut his trap. He's in danger of tarnishing his amazing managerial career with petty insolence. Roll with the punches Fergie. You get a lot of decisions too you know, or have you forgotten the 5 minutes of added time against City?

Posted by indianreddevil on 11/16/2009

Good Blog mate..

some points of discussion..

Do you think Carrick's days are numbered? i feel he has been the reason along with Evra and Vidic (our last 3 key additions since 2006), we won the hat trick of titles.. but obviously Carrick has not been at his best.. and Ronaldo being gone and having to play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, Fletch picks himself and Anderson is 2nd in the race as of now.. With OH coming back and Lijaic in Jan, do you think Carrick will be less and less used?

Also, there is a speculation that Tosic is not United Material? although i hardly believe in such tripe, but would like to hear from you.. i think the lad is coming good in reserves and deserves a good run in league Cup.
Do you think United should go for someone like Villa.. he is a mean goal scorer and thats what we have been lacking, he will be a perfect counterpart for Rooney, although Berba is coming better but a player like Villa is someone we need.
keep up the good work mate and awaiting your comments

Posted by Norfolk Ned on 11/16/2009

Davies is actually an excellent player and I am sure you will be aware that not all forwards occupy their positions to score goals. Carew, Heskey, Crouch..In fact he has more assists every year than those 3 mentioned do.

Posted by Patrick Runge on 11/16/2009

Really? You don't think Jonny Evans getting away with burying his cleats into Didier Drogba's chest was a no-decision in United's favor? You don't think United being permitted to complete the game with 11 men in the face of a clear-as-day red card offense didn't help the Red Devils out?

Sir Alex's whining about officials in a transparent attempt to deflect attention from his side's frailties is beneath a man of his accomplishments. But apparently his whining is also filtering down to United supporters.

Posted by NuclearHelmet on 11/16/2009

Wow, you are actually crying about a couple of decisions going against you in high profile games. This just proves that manu fans have become so used to every minor and major decision going their way that they start whining whenever the other team gets the rub of the green.
I wonder if you were questioning the fitness of the referee when during the Manu-Arsenal match at Old T Fletcher felled Arshavin in a 2 footed lunge and then pushed the ball away with his hand - both in a matter of seconds and both penalties by themselves - and the ref never blew the whistle.

ManU werent imaginative or creative against chelsea. They just defended very compactly and were holding on comfortably till Chelsea did what Manu have been doing for years now - nick a game with the help of a couple of dubious decisions from the ref. It happens. Take it and move on.

Posted by Trev on 11/16/2009

Great piece, Mr Harris.

It's an interesting point you raise about Ferguson's seniority in the game counting against him, as it were. In a regular court of law, this could never happen, of course, but the footballing 'trial' is a different beast to the criminal variety, and probably (for better or worse - probably worse) always will be.

I don't think that something needs to be 'proved' in this instance, though, in order to work out whether Ferguson has sinned or not: the 'crime' is that he publicly lambasted a referee, in contravention of the much-undermined (and, by Ferguson, fully understood) Respect campaign. I'd be surprised if Ferguson truly did believe that Wiley was so 'unfit' that he shouldn't be refereeing - rather, it was a mean, fairly typical 'Ferguson's-just-lost' attack on someone or something other than his own team. It's a high profile version of the father's rant on a Sunday during his son's under 12s game - an ugly part of the game the FA rightly want rid of

Posted by Stephen on 11/17/2009

I think the refereeing standard of premier league is truly failing. And I don't understand people like Sepp Blatter who keeps denying technological advancement on the game. Why do you need to retain as much "human factor" as possible when that factor turns out to be "human error"? What if that error decides World Cup winner? Or relegation? It's such a big risk and given the availability of the technology, it's completely incomprehensible how such a big league like EPL could've ignored it.

Posted by Herbert West on 11/17/2009

Apart from the result I consider the performance against Chelsea quite encouraging. I more or less expected Utd. to be steamrolled, but they seemed to have little trouble containing the boys in blue. Make no mistake about it, Utd. did benefit from the home side's cautious approach. Having said that, this was a solid performance, especially compared to the no-show at Anfield, and a couple of other substandard performances. Particularly vexing is that this is how Utd. could (and should) reasonably be expected to perform on a regular basis. Why they have not, is beyond me.

Posted by marts on 11/17/2009

good story as per usual but i remember Keanes testimonial when thousands of celtic fans came to manchester and basically sat side by side united fans without any major incidents. I know it was a friendly but there have been repeated incidents involving rangers fans even since their final and i dont think its fair to include celtic just because they form part of the old firm. celtics last major final in seville lead to nothing but praise for the fans and at least as many people travelled. one old firm yes but please remember they are 2 different clubs. united after all should not be judged by what city do on or off the field.

Posted by James on 11/18/2009

United have been given almost 50-50 call in the last decade. The penalty thyou claim was a sure thing in the chelsea match is a very naive call. Both Valencia and Terry if i remember correctly were shouldering each other and it could have just as easily been a foul on terry as the other way around. How a united fan can claim they dont get the calls is just plain arrogance that you expect everything to go your way. This is an awful article and no doubt you are an awful human being. (I would usually be more reasoned with an argument like this but your article just angered me and it does not deserve effort)

Posted by james on 11/18/2009

oh yeah one more thing, Johnny Evans is an absolute disgrace to the game of football and as undoubtedly talented as he is i would be embarrassed if he was in a team i support

Posted by Brian on 11/18/2009

How much did you get from SAF to write this? United have been given preferntial treatment time and time again, and in two matches this year in which things actually evened out, you go off and say that they are being colluded against.

The FA doesn't collude against anybody this year, whereas in year's past it's been everyone but United on the receiving end.

Posted by Tommy on 11/19/2009

Well written! Continue to champion free speech and equality sir.

Posted by Panda on 11/30/2009

Ok you all maybe right in saying the article conveniently omits the evans-drogba incident but the claim that decisions going against united does have grounds. Most decisions are dubiously awarded for other teams just as much... just not repeated as many times as it does for united and not discussed so in depth by panelists etc. And to say that darren fletcher or united in general are any dirtier than the likes of JT, Carvalho, Drogba or more generally Ballack, Mascherano, Carragher, Gallas etc is absolute bull. For every discrete nudge fletcher commits, ballack probably does three and can anyone honestly give a single, just one, example of fletcher wasting time rolling on the ground like Drogba, arguably the strongest man in the premier league if not in the entire country. Im just saying that bit of aggression is part of the game and fletcher does it professionally unlike others

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