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During Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s fourteen years at Manchester United the club have never lost a game at Villa Park. With the baby-faced assasin’s decision to manage his former club Molde FK coming this week, the record nearly went with him.
I hear that a lot of Ole’s decision is motivated by his desire ‘to give something back’ to the club that developed him. There is little more we can say to the man who won us the European Cup, is a patron of MUST and all round nice guy other than - “Thanks for the memories and best of luck in the future, you will always be welcome back with open arms”.
It was interesting to be at Old Trafford in 2007 for the match against Sunderland. It was Keano’s return as a manager but also the first home fixture since Solskjaer had announced the end of his playing career. Both names were sung of course, but the two teams formed a guard of honour for the Norwegian before kick off and the crowd gave him a standing ovation.
There was no such crowd appreciation after this week’s turgid derby against City. I thought we might nick it at the end but a draw is still a good result considering we had to make two forced defensive changes because of injury.

Carlos Tevez
My goodness what a slow game though, the whole thing felt like a Mexican standoff from the beginning. I found the most entertaining aspects of the match Wes Brown’s current moustache and Tevez’s ridiculous neck warming cravat. Who does he think he is? David Niven.
One man whose identity could not be mistaken this week is my old man who appears in the below press photo (somewhere towards the left in a green and gold scarf). Whilst he is, of course, delighted to have been snapped by the fourth estate, it reminds me about one of the fundamentals of being a football fan.

The Grimace consoles Owen Hargreaves
It is a process so entrenched between fathers and sons, it is such a deep part of community and culture that it occupies a special plain in our lives. Watching United is about more than being associated with a singular club and enjoying their style of play. It provides us with the language we use to communicate with each other.
Most of what was said between us on Saturday lunchtime during the ‘Thriller at the Villa’, particularly in the second half, was of the four-letter variety, loud and panicky. The teams exchanged blows like young versions of George Foreman and Mohhamed Ali and although United should have been stronger I am inclined to agree with Feguson’s summation.
“Another five minutes and we'd have won," opined the Scot. Indeed he is correct, but we need to start winning games inside ninety minutes now more than ever. Chelsea, for example, have been doing this on a weekly basis recently. P.S. I love Sunderland.
I’m loathe to criticise Ferguson at this juncture though because I personally believe he is doing the best job of actually managing the team he has done since he arrived in 1986. The empire is crumbling kids. The players we have are not as good as the ones we have had. Money is flying out in all the wrong directions and the fans are divided.
Truly, Manchester United as an institution has not been in as dire a straights for eighty or ninety years. The fact that we still have a manager at the helm who can keep this side unbeaten thirteen games into the season is a miracle. I, for one, am pretty bloody grateful.
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Posted by Jono on 11/14/2010
Well said Mark. If it wasn't for Sir Alex United won't be in second place even after some very poor showings. How long can this drag on though?
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Posted by johanzul on 11/14/2010
Agreed with you Mark on this posting. Like my previous comment, SAF not to use lame excuses or statements, it is a great insult to the intelligent of the fans. I, myself a fan of SAF management style previously, but now, personally, I think he should had left the club years back when MU had won the BPL. At least it is not so bad to add into his tremendous record http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/manager?id=30&cc=4716. Go down with dignity still intact at the time as in proper words. But now, if SAF waits for another miracle, well, time is running out since if we count to his upcoming birthday, he shall be 69th years old, even he still has passion for football, the physical and mental demand with pressure of managing the club shall limits him. Not that we forgot his contribution to the club, of course not! but when your time is up, you got to move on. Thus, hopes he find his successor soon whether SAF got CL/BPL this season or not. My vote is for the Special-1.
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Posted by tuhin on 11/14/2010
Hi Mark,
Well, the poor shows against wolves,city and villa put olly's exit into perspective, don't they?...what a player he was...be it in the box or out...he was an excellent goal scorer...a really unaffected human being..never cribbed about being benched...it's sad to see him go...
Last evening (my local time..:)) was a disgrace...81 mins and no shot on target is not united...i really don't understand why they are not performing...poor corners...not a single decent chance created...in fact, the 2 goals came more out of fear of getting the hairdryer i feel than out of a need and urge to do well...
The only positive was the look on vidic's face when he equalized...it was one of intense passion and hopefully that will rub on to the likes of berba,park,carrick and fletcher...
really disappointed..but hopeful..
tuhin
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Posted by Rishi Dayal on 11/14/2010
Well said Mark. We're pretty lucky to have Sir Alex at a time like this.
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Posted by Patrice-Kigali on 11/15/2010
Hi Mark and fellow ManU supporters.
Well, we have lamented since last season how this team is weak and performances this season and a few of last have shown.
To be honest the current United players are inferior in quality and quantity to those of Chelsea(watched happily Sunderland with our Welberck destroying them), Arsenal, Mancity, and Totenham. If we are fortunate to be in top-4 come may, that will may be due to our experienced manager(who i must admit, looks like is beginning to loose control of the team).
SAF made a mistake in supporting the Glazers to buy ManU but unfortunately can't now criticize their plans/policies and ways of milking the team as his Bosses!
At least Park was tired from the performance of the previous 2-3 games but look at Berbatov(My God, why bench the young stars?).
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Posted by Jose Brooks on 11/15/2010
Hey Mark and all the restaya's,
the chap above who said Fergie is past his time and needs to see his way out has lost is marbles...I will take Fergie attached to life support, in hospice, on the side of the pitch...
Faith that Rooney will be back at his best very soon and give Nani a bit of a break. Clearly he's not at full strength. Berbs--grow up.
Last but not least, Vidic is a ROCK and the heart of the team.
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Posted by mann on 11/15/2010
Oi Marky, chin up. Now I know where u get ur good looks from ;-)
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Posted by Kapil on 11/15/2010
Hi Mark,
I agree with jose brooks. I'd rather have SAF than anyone else. With Rooney back in a couple of weeks the squad should strenghten. Also if the bloody glazers can give some cash to SAF for trnsfers this winter or maybe next summer then all people SAF him will seal their lips.
LOVE UNITED. HATE GLAZERS.
PS. HATE CITY TOO.
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Posted by Raizzen on 11/15/2010
johanzul,
I think u've missed Mark's point by miles. I think its pretty damn clear what he was saying is that WE'RE LUCKY TO STILL HAVE FERGIE at the helm when times are hard such as now.
Fergie is not to blame for our current predicament. Glazers are. We are lucky to have such incredible manager while having these cut throat mofos as our owners. Just imagine the likes of football crazed, rich-as-hell owners (read: Shitty's Sheikhs.) owning the club and having Fergie at the helm. We would have been deadly.
But frankly, since the team is admittedly, more 'solid than spectacular' than the ones we were used to, I found their 'never say die' attitude and teamwork rather endearing.
And I couldn't love United more. United. For life.
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Posted by RM on 11/15/2010
@ Patrice-Kigali
COULD YOU PLEASE NOT REFER TO THE CLUB AS "MANU"???
If you don't know why, you shouldn't be professing to be a fan. Read the following and LEARN.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/95405-its-united-not-man-u
Mark, could you maybe do a blog on the topic?
On the topic of the team's performances... I'd like to see Chelsea or Arsenal play as bad as we have, and still be 3rd in the league. 1 point of Arsenal and 3 off Chelsea. We still have to play both of them, and God help them once we hit top gear.
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Posted by mann on 11/16/2010
Hi RM & other lads, I myself don't use MANU but this after I read from the official magazine that we don't call ourselves that. They said its what the ABU (Anything But United) ppl who are against United use.
Didn't know the MANU term was attributed to the Munich tragedy. In fact when I read thru the comments from that site, there were a few ppl disagreeing with it.
Anyways MANU don't really sound great right? Its sounds better when we use Manchester United, Man United, United, no?
I agree with RM, Mark if u have time can u tell us whats the story with MANU?
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Posted by johanzul on 11/16/2010
“Another five minutes and we'd have won," opined the Scot. For me again, lame excuses. What happened to 85 minutes before that? Plus, if the Glazers to be blame, well, I do not agree. Even with Liverpool, they blame the Manager not the Owner because it simply the channel to do so even if it is partially or fully the Owner fault. As analogy, you do not channel your issues to the Building Owner but to the Manager who manage the building in which the Manager should channel it to the Owner but in MU case, dear SAF defended the Glazers in which his rights to do so but as fans, we should push the Manager by issuing 'pressure' comments (ie. blame) all over the world, I'm sure that our dear SAF, can take it positively as a man with vast experience in world of football and life itself.
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Posted by Kd on 11/16/2010
Winning or staying within touching distance of top place when playing badly is a great quality United have. But doesn't it worry you Mark that we have been only playing badly for the last 3 seasons (the last season United won, Liverpool were actually the better footballing side). For 3 seasons now we are only playing badly, but competing through sheer bloody-mindedness. Its a great quality, but frankly I would like to see our team play well for at least a brief period of time.
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Posted by Patrice-Kigali on 11/16/2010
Thanks RM for correcting me on use of MANU. I was gutted when i read its meaning(Especially being attached to the Munich tragedy) and how it was used.
I have never and would never think of insulting any other team let alone the one i support since 1993.
Mark's Response:
I'm aware of the chants from the Leeds and the Liverpool fans. In terms of calling the club 'ManU' it feels a bit close to 'Manure' which is the derogatory term I hear the most often.
Personally, I always just say that I follow United.
But don't worry, being a fan is about supporting the club. Vocabulary doesn't win you football matches
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Posted by Profit of Doom on 11/16/2010
All good points lads. One must remember that we still haven't replaced the best player in the world :( Hope we get Valencia back in March for the run-in, but our midfield and attack do not look the same since he left the club. Honourable mention to injuries as well, which looked to have slowed down some of our more notable players like Ferdinand, Carrick, Park, Brown, Hargreaves & Owen.
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Posted by Alroy on 11/16/2010
Please, no disrespect to SAF, but I think holding on to Bebatov will see us not winning any trophies this season. He's not a Man United type of player...period!!!
I hope Rooney come back a fresh and hungry player. He and the little Pea can and will destroy teams. That's my vision.
It's a pity Tevez was let go...see how angry he was whenever he played against us...he loved Man United.
Anyway, good story Mark
United we Stand...
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Posted by Raizzen on 11/16/2010
Tevez loves money. Don't use that excuse to insult the club and the fans' intelligence. Its not like we didn't make an offer albeit a bit late. But if he has that tiny bit of love to the club, he'd stay but he didn't.
Look at him now all happy with his football playing for the most successful team - in not winning anything for more than 30 yrs.
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Posted by United forever on 11/16/2010
Johanazul, while I cannot imagine having Fergie step down at this point of the club's history, I can at least somewhat kinda understand why some fans would want to see that. But I must disagree vehemently with Mourinho being the successor. While he is a master tactician, and an incredible coach, I would hate to see us play without a fluid attacking style and that is what I think he will revert too. Again, this is just my opinion but that is the general structure and tactic he utilizes. I personally was excited to hear about Guardiola being lined up, even though he doesn't have a lot of experience and one could merit his treble winning season as a one off.
I wish I could fully explain my thoughts but alas I'm at work and cannot be caught typing this out instead of reports!
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Posted by Jason Hoh on 11/17/2010
What we need now is for SAF to re-recruit Carlos Quieroz back to our camp, yes, he is a not a brilliant manager as shown by his stint with Portugal and Real Madrid. As written by a blog in soccernet few weeks ago, CQ adds a new dimension to united's formation, training and mind u, he trained C.Ronaldo to be the best player in the world, maybe he could do the same with Nani. And i miss SAF's 3-4-3, the gung-ho style which earn us a point in the last 10 mins at Villa Park. Go Gung-ho, and C.Q.! A.Managers a very important, just look at Chelsea now!
May Man Utd Rise Again!
Posted by nelson black on 11/21/2010
united should please keep the paste cos chelsa is going down
Posted by Mark's Dad on 11/23/2010
I was applauding Hargo because he lasted longer than I expected - a whole five minutes. He's a smashing lad but I don't think we'll be seeing a lot more of him.
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Mark Payne writes about football for a variety of media outlets. He reported on the 2010 World Cup for Australia’s ABC network and worked at one of the FIFA fan sites. He has been ESPN’s Manchester United correspondent for four years. His writing attracts a worldwide following and in 2011 this blog was nominated for an award. To contact Mark for football discussion e-mail him on markpayne.editor@hotmail.com at any time. He wears lucky socks on match days.
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