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Posted by Mark Payne on 04/07/2010

"When I were a lad", as begins the famous Monty Python skit with four Yorkshiremen. Various tales of hardship are shared out between the grumpy old gits about how tough it was growin up tup north.

Who’d a thought United’d struggle without young Wayne? Well, everyone actually. Unfortunately, some also thought that Berbatov would step up to the plate. Certainly he has stepped up, but his stride is yet to break out into a sprint, not even a steady jog.

Well it ain’t easier for any of us at the moment. Just looking around locally, Burnely fans could whinge about Brian Laws being on a one-man mission to take them down. City can’t exactly scream from the rooftops about Garry Cook and Blackburn are, well, in Blackburn.

Wigan remind of the resident space cadet at school – highly entertaining when they turn up, but that ain’t much. Arsenal are unappreciated elves losing their battle against a platoon of Robocops (or Barcelona) and Liverpool are under the charge of a man with dodgy facial hair who has clearly lost his mind.

So when I want to launch into a long tirade about how terrible it is that Rooney is injured, I spare a thought for every fan in the country – because this season we are all suffering. And at least we’ve got a cup.

People talk about the neutrals wanting Arsenal and Fulham to do well because they are “well-run clubs”. Arsenal, fair enough, but Fulham? Mohammad Al Fayed’s plaything, with a moneyed up owner and little historic soul, are everything that is wrong with English football. You can’t put Roy Hodgson in front of something and tell me that it is pretty, even if he is a lovely bloke.

It begs the question, who are these neutral fans? Some kind of grey-clad, Swiss people only interested in the welfare of good in the world? Nope. They actually don’t exist. In my book, you either have some kind of stake in the game or you’re not really that bothered.


Gary Neville tries to talk to the young people of today. ©Getty Images

I’ll concede that it is exciting. There are plenty of sumptuous fixtures left, and if anyone can correctly predict the formation of the top 8 now I shall happily give you the religion of my first born.

Lining up in the following fixtures we need a turbo charged Berba, the 1999 Neville, Macheda with Michael Owen’s brain and Fergie to plan his team selections better that he plans his post-match whinges about the ref.

Will City do us a massive favour? Will Spurs help Arsneal? How will Liverpool feel if they have to beat Chelsea to finish fourth but hand us no.19 in the process?

Spare a thought for all the football fans in this country, because mostly we suffer from football rather than enjoy it. In a few weeks though, some of us will be drinking Chateaux de Chaselet and saying, “who’d a thought?” I hope it’s us.

Comments

Posted by Chizyuka Olive on 04/07/2010

Precisely Put Mark! I have endured a hellish week as a MANCHESTER UNITED supporter and fan since our CL defeat last week there times I want to retaliate but I look at our position; One cup already in the cabinet with the distant possibility of another 2.Surely we have a great or at the very least a 50/50 chance against Bayern.But if we blow it, at the end of it all, it will be a season of should have, could have would have.

Posted by Patrice-Kigali on 04/07/2010

"Lining up in the following fixtures we need a turbo charged Berba, the 1999 Neville, Macheda with Michael Owen’s brain and Fergie to plan his team selections better that he plans his post-match whinges about the ref."

Mark; I can't express it better!But i believe Macheda having M.Owen's brains is the most likely to happen scenario of all. Will SAF give him more chances when he has to justfy the 31 millions spent on Berba at the cost of a team? I beg your answer.

There were moments when as a ManU fan, you went to watch a game just wondering how many the team is going to score. Now though you are wondering who is going to score if Rooney is not in. That is how far, times and poor planning can push you.

SAF believes Ribery is not faster than G.Neville!

I see the manager trying to play counter attack football using Neville,Giggs,Scholes,Berba and Rio! Where is the energy and pace in any of them?

The season has been bitter for many not excluding ourselves for now aleast.

ManU4EVER

Posted by Olasunkanmi Taiwo on 04/07/2010

Man utd boss sir alex suold pall his suqard againt munich in the second leg at old traford because of roony injurie,expecially mindfied

Posted by sean on 04/07/2010

Fergie must play Berba and Macheda and Owen Hargreaves in the midfield with Carrick,with Giggs on the left wing.
ManU for ever

Posted by joey on 04/07/2010

Please United Squad should try their best.
I love United.

Posted by Susie on 04/07/2010

Ahead of today's match, Mark, I wish you the best; and would grudgingly support United if they go through. Haha. The 87 friends I have that are United supporters would kill me if I didn't!

Auf geht's Bayern!

Posted by afiq_malaysia on 04/07/2010

rooney plsss come back to us.man utd in danger now.hope you faster came back healty can play back.man utd can win if you back.hope we win uefa league.rooney you are the best

Posted by afiq_malaysia on 04/07/2010

rooney plsss come back to us.man utd in danger now.hope you faster came back healty can play back.man utd can win if you back.hope we win uefa league.rooney you are the best

Posted by famuchy on 04/07/2010

Sir faggie should erase the mentality of sticking to that old Neviel past glory and get stick to Rafael and also should forget using welback for now cos it a total flop and give macheda a chance to justify himself

Posted by famuchy on 04/07/2010

Sir faggie should erase the mentality of sticking to that old Neviel past glory and get stick to Rafael and also should forget using welback for now cos it a total flop and give macheda a chance to justify himself

Posted by Gary LP on 04/07/2010

Yes there have been some disappoinmnets this season but let's wait until it is over until we give our final verdict on what wnt right or wrong. It would be a dream to win 2 more trophies, I would settle for 1 actually.

One thing is certain the premier league is getting more and more unpredictable. So,e of the "easy" gaems are not that easy any more and that requires not just a good starting 11 but quality of depth in the squad especially when are 50+ games in a season.

Posted by RICORITY on 04/07/2010

Ever since SAF bought Berby, he has not been able to justify his worth in the team, his style is alien to ManU, too slow for counter-attack football Utd is known for, too concerned with playing to the gallery (wanting to score spectacular goals that dont come too easy). i think is a wasteful buy to Utd.Berby's inability to fit into Utd is the problem of the team. he is unable to deputise for Rooney. i think he should be off loaded in order to allow fresh legs to the attack

Posted by RICORITY on 04/07/2010

Ever since SAF bought Berby, he has not been able to justify his worth in the team, his style is alien to ManU, too slow for counter-attack football Utd is known for, too concerned with playing to the gallery (wanting to score spectacular goals that dont come too easy). i think is a wasteful buy to Utd.Berby's inability to fit into Utd is the problem of the team. he is unable to deputise for Rooney. i think he should be off loaded in order to allow fresh legs to the attack

Posted by RICORITY on 04/07/2010

Ever since SAF bought Berby, he has not been able to justify his worth in the team, his style is alien to ManU, too slow for counter-attack football Utd is known for, too concerned with playing to the gallery (wanting to score spectacular goals that dont come too easy). i think is a wasteful buy to Utd.Berby's inability to fit into Utd is the problem of the team. he is unable to deputise for Rooney. i think he should be off loaded in order to allow fresh legs to the attack

Posted by Sushant on 04/07/2010

Firmly.....i beleived in the absence of rooney SAF should go with two regular strikers...i.e it could be Diouf or Macheda or use nani..as far diouf played only single game but the pace he showed....was extremly magnifisent....at this time we need pace,energy,defence,and positive frame of mind and not allowed Rooney's absence to dominate team.....Berb,Valencia, Giggs Park they are play- makers and at this instance we need finishers...

MANU love YOU!!!

Posted by ivan on 04/07/2010

Great post. I'm a Liverpool fan and yes Rafa's lost it. Should be a very entertaining match today. I think United do need some new blood in attack or they could become one-dimensional depending on Rooney the way we depend on Torres. Cheers.

Posted by Dekadrongut on 04/07/2010

Note to SAF:
Please don't let Neville play today. PLEASE boss. Pretty please, boss.

Posted by Neal (singapore) on 04/07/2010

Well good news, hope Rooney lasts the pace tonight. Glad SAF replaced Neville with a pacier Rafael. I question the inclusion of Gibson, ahead of Park (or Macheda/Berba). A poor record against Bayern, but Milan too and look what we did to them.

Posted by Arzerouni23 on 04/08/2010

At the beiginning of the season, I argued that our starting 11 was not as good as Chelseas and Arsenal's. I also said we were not good enough to win the Champions League or the Premier League with our current starting 11. Finally, I said Berbatov is a waste of space and money and concluded that everything about our season depended on ROONEY. Mark Payne strongly disagreed with my assesment.
Well, after 2 defeats against Chelsea, 7 defeats in the league, 2 wins against Arsenal (One deserved, one lucky), 12 goals from Berbatov, 2 consecutive games when we gave away commanding leads to an average Bayern side apart from (2 world class wingers), and 34 GOALS FROM ROOOOONEY. I think my hypothesis has been quite accurate.
Dumped out of the FA Cup by LEEDS, 2 points behind Chelsea in the League, dumped out of Europe by that team we beat in 1999, winning the League (mickey mouse) cup and making 60 million pounds profit in transfer money is not good for the greatest british club in history.

Posted by AidiRusly on 04/08/2010

As i read your post, MAN UTD just lost on away goal to Bayern Munich after leading 3 goals, 4-2 in aggregate before half time. So unlike UTD to throw away leads, especially at OT. What you have to say about that Mark?

Posted by Arzerouni23 on 04/08/2010

United should be no further back than where Barca has been over the last 2 seasons, but the lack of funding by the Glazers is the reason for where we are.
Where do we go from here? well, we have the greatest manager in the history of football and the BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD IN ROONEY. We are not too far from where barca is, I would spend that 80 mil on Hamsik (18-20 mil), Silva (20-25 mil), Dzeko (20-25 mil), Subotic (20 mil) and lloris (20 mil) and sell Berbatov, Carrick, Vidic for around 50 mil.
I think we would be a much better team with the players suggested and those players that would leave. Granted Vidic is the one that we would miss the most from those three that I'm suggesting to sell, but he doesn't look like he wants to play for us anymore. I can only recall 1 game this season when he played a solid, Vidic like game and that was against Bolton
Berba is useless, he is not a consistant scorer, where as carrick has played like a dunky who has given balls away all season

Posted by Arzerouni23 on 04/08/2010

Finally, the reason I say Wayne Rooney is the best player in the world at a time when everyone is tipping Messi to be the greatest of all time, is because ROONEY PLAYS WITH HEART and PASSION. You wouldn't have seen Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka or any other superstar in the world of football today, where they get paid over 150,000 pounds a week, step on a field of football 7 days after twisting their ankle, yet we saw Rooney do that last night and lift his teammates which was the main reason behind us getting a 3 goal lead. If you disagree then look at the footage of the bayern players like thomas mullar and how intimidated they look as they staired at ROONEY and his ANKLE while standing in the tunnel of Old trafford prior to kick off
Messi is a great player, definitely the most entertaining player in the world (also very efficient 39goals), Ronaldo is great and marketable, ROONEY IS A BEAST who might be ugly and bold, but plays with a passion that is sorely missing in the modern game today.

Posted by Bob on 04/08/2010

United has nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooo talent without rooney. the closest to a competitive players they have are nani and berbatov

Posted by Martin Petrov on 04/08/2010

Tonight United and England were taught a lesson in football. Germany and Italy will always be masters of pressing football just like Spain and France are masters of the free flowing game, winning European and World Cup titles, while England are left with their pathetic single one. The enthusiasm of United and Arsenal at imitating Barca's and Real's game failed - the first outplayed by a disciplined and merciless total football and the latter by a club of 11 geniuses. English clubs crashed out of the tournament to leave in it the true greats of the game - Bayern, Inter and Barcelona. Wayne Rooney limped about trying to look a threat when Messi played like a god. That's the short of it. Pathetic vs. inspired. With ten players against Arsenal Barcelona continued demolishing the Brits. In the same shoes, United were just capable of defending and throwing dirt at the referee. So, the Germans kicked Rooney? Arsenal kicked Messi too! Nani was great? Well, Robben made him look like a child!

Posted by terence on 04/08/2010

If Man U failed to win this season's EPL title, it would be down to the fact that they are over-relied on Rooney. Ronaldo & Tevez were never really replaced.

Posted by Justin Douglas on 04/08/2010

All these people saying United has no talent without Rooney either are so blinded by jealousy that they refuse to admit it or no absolutely nothing about football in general. Having said that we do lack the power to attack without him, Berbatov maybe a striker but he is not a United striker, he doesn't play United style football. It's time like these a person begins to miss Tevez a bit but I don't think he would score as many goals because he wouldn't be happy with his role on the team and not being the Alpha male.

Posted by Ivan on 04/08/2010

Ferguson is the problem.He no longer knows what he's doing.He puts on Rooney when it was clear that he was not capable of playing and only caused more injury to his legs (a stupid move), so basically we played with 10 men from the beginning.Then he left Rafael on when we could all see that he was going to be sent off sooner or later.To cap the evening he introduces O'shea who has'nt played for about a year (even dumber)
when he could have let Fletcher play that role.
As for Berbatov,if anyone rates this man,they have got to be high on smelly socks or something.
I think Ferguson is high on those socks too,man he has got to go.

Posted by David akinola on 04/10/2010

I really do think berbatov is a waste of time and energy. Our midfield is way too soft and maybe anderson is our enigma after all. He is explosive, skillful and can pass the ball. Rooney is one of the best players in the world but of course ronaldo and tevez remain irreplaceable.

Posted by jyruiee6n7ywvbytvbew on 04/13/2010

Does anyone else feel like we've lost four games in a row?

Posted by Noor Izwan Bin Nasir on 04/13/2010

I think the new transfer that suit M. United proble striker like Kevin Doyle that has pace and quality of hardworking not lazy like berba..., And ofcourse new goalkeeper like Brazilian keeper or Germany keeper will do it....

Posted by saiful malaysia on 04/14/2010

just sell berbatov or ignore him...just do like that cause he not usefull to man utd...

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