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Posted by Wallace Poulter on 10/24/2011

A dozen hours after the game I am still stunned at the result. But my pre-match point is still as valid now as it was when I made it. You still only get three points for a win whether against United or Stoke. But still...

That may well be the most amazing result in watching football for the past 40 odd years. To win 6-1 at Old Trafford is just astonishing.

The day started with an aggressive Roberto Mancini line-up. Rather than a 4-2-3-1 or an Inter style diamond, Mancini unveiled a fairly basic 4-4-2 with Barry and Toure in the middle and Milner and Silva on the outside. At least that was true when City were defending. When the team had the ball, Milner and Silva had license to wander and they did to great effect, yet both were immense on the defensive side of the ball helping to neutralize Young and Nani on the wings.

Normally this would have terrified me as the key to the City defence is pushing the opposition wide and preventing the attacks coming through the middle. Yet without Scholes or Carrick United seemed to be devoid of the killer pass. Barry and Toure closed down well, but there were still occasions when Rooney and later Hernandez had far too much space in front of the City back four. It was just this kind of space that led to United's consolation from Fletcher.

Mancini also offered a wrinkle up front where Balotelli played behind Aguero rather than the expected other way around. It allowed the Italian to drift into position, something he did to score the first with a beautifully placed pass into the far corner after good work from Milner.

The game turned within a minute of the half time restart when Evans was, as I noted in pre-match observations, turned easily by Balotelli. Evans was the last man, committed the foul and United were reduced to 10 men. Not an automatic victory for City at this point. However first Milner and then Richards became providers with great moves into the box on the right hand side as Evra and Ferdinand had absolute stinkers. Fletcher pulled one back and your final score was 3-1.

No really, it was. If we are honest with ourselves, that's the true result from this game. City played well, United were reduced to 10 men and Mancini's men shocked the footballing world with a win against their cross-town rivals.

Before we get to the final four minutes I want to take a moment to mention a name that I've yet to see in any of the game reports that I've read. Joleon Lescott. As regular readers know, I'm no fan of the former Everton defender, but he was rock solid at the back and got his positioning correct.

Which brings us back to City leading 3-1 over United and the youth of Ferguson's side. Playing youngsters is a double edged sword. They can and will show no fear which can lead to an 8-2 thumping of Arsenal. However when you substitute experienced depth in a squad for youth, days like this can occur. This game called out for a John O'Shea, Wes Brown or Paul Scholes to help steady their team or in fact start. Chris Smalling, Jonny Evans, Anderson (replaced at 66 minutes by Phil Jones) and Danny Welbeck were curious choices. Each by themselves maybe would have worked but combined, the inexperience created a perfect storm.

First Dzeko scored from a Barry header and Lescott pull back before it got... well silly. United just seemed to give up. Down 4-1 at home with a couple of minutes to go is no time to go on the attack. First Silva and then Dzeko once more scored on the counter attack to make it 6-1 and incredibly it could and should have been more.

Again, it still is only three points although the 10-goal swing in goal difference may yet come into play at the end of the year. But despite my protestations to the contrary this felt like something more. Call it a passing of the torch, regime change or what you will. You just don't go to Old Trafford and score six.

Manchester United 1-6 Manchester City... Unbelievable.


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Comments

Posted by Dip on 10/24/2011

Im still shocked! And speechless! 6-1 wow!

Posted by Hari on 10/24/2011

Wallace,
it wasnt just the youngsters who gave up,ferdinand just stood and watched as dzeko and lescott raced forward and got a goal....rooney was furious....i just think we might have broken something there...united arent used to being in such positions and they really gave up in the end...next weeks match will say everything...

Wallace Reply Ferdinand was as poor as I've seen him.

Posted by Rivaldinho10 on 10/24/2011

Haha shocking huh?? We all so it coming unless you are hypocrite. City form has been awesum from the very beginning of the season. Reminds me of mourinhos chelsea.

Wallace Reply I certainly didn't see this coming...

Posted by Alvin on 10/24/2011

Unbelievable indeed. I woke up this morning after the match and checked the results again to make sure it was real!

But you are right, united just up and left when the score was at 3-0. They (save Rooney) just couldn't be bothered after that.

Dzeko's first goal was the most telling. Lescott kept it alive for Dzeko to knee it in and what were united doing? Standing around watching. Amazing.

This match will do wonders for the morale and confidence of the team though. Only the 9th game but wow, what a statement of intent.

Wallace Reply What was weird is on that corner United had only 5 men in the box.

Posted by Faizan on 10/24/2011

Hi Wallace,
What a day it was!! I m from India, and I loved the faces of Man Utd supporters here yesterday.
I had some doubts over Mancini tinkering last season. But this season, he is making all the right decisions, at least in EPL.
I would love to see he masterminds wins in group stages in Champions league, where I feel he's still a touch vulnerable.
And the team is just superb, 1-6, oh God, give me some breathing space!! They need to keep their head's down, if they really wanna compete for title, coz ManU will come back strongly.

Posted by AK on 10/24/2011

Best day of footie EVER!! it wasn't the final scoreline, it wasn't that we destroyed them at their "Theater of Dreams", it was the watching of pure football from Silva and Milner. It was the precision placement of Balotelli's 1st goal and the RIDICULOUS pass of Silva to Dzeko for his goal. Silva is running away with "Player of the League"--he's just so beautiful to watch.

Your title above is oh so right: Mancini got this perfectly right. Just hope that the boys keep things in perspective: we have 29 more games to go and still face some seriously tough tests. Plus getting out of the group in CL is no picnic.

WHAT A DAY!

Posted by kelon on 10/24/2011

hey wallace
shocked at the scoreline but not the resulting defeat,no one had man cty to win ,i did,sense chelsea man u had a weakness an as it shows up when gifting finals away they still havent learned not biased jus truth at fact if teams before took they chances utd wudnt be in the top 4 now especially liverpools game they shud have done that against cty but cudnt cause they were at home, jus a team took they chances not all but most an there u have it damage limitation,well congrats an gud luck to cty

Posted by Mark Payne on 10/24/2011

Wallace,

Congratulations to you, City and your fans on a tremendous performance.
Your side played with class and distinction.

Mark Payne

Manchester United Correspondent

Wallace Reply Thanks Mark... I still like the moves United have made in the transfer market.

Posted by kenzy on 10/24/2011

surprised! Why? I had seen it coming. Utd struggles against physical teams(stoke) tarried in the cl as against the very robust style of city. Dis is a change of guard @ manchester. They av shown a statement of intent. If u dont believe dis i dont tink u will anytin.

Wallace Reply Ultimately it's only three points and a five point lead is nothing...

Posted by MCapital on 10/24/2011

It was a strange result in so many ways. It could have gone either way. But kuddos to City for taking their chances.

Tell you what Wallace, I dont think the scoreline confirms either United is pathetic or City is world class level - as you rightly said its only one game. But it is going to be interesting from now until May. I said about United win against Arsenal that it was an optical illusion and i hope this result is taken with a pinch of salt by City.

Wallace Reply It is here certainly. United just got weird at the end - Evra for example in the City penalty box attacking at 1-5 down. Strange game. I mean, brilliant but strange.

Posted by Toddymu on 10/24/2011

Hey Wallace
Manchester city really showed class on sunday. My issue of contention is why cant manchester united penetrate attack through the middle and not always on the flanks with the aim of crossing in balls? Manchester city had in richards and clichy and solid match to keep silence Nani and Young. Ferguson too was at fault. Why not substitute a striker and put in Jones to stabilize is defence and play a 4 4 1 formation? I Can see a change of era. Man city is leaving the shaddows of man u. Remember the only thing constant in life is change.

Wallace Reply I've always contended that Ferguson is the best squad builder in the Premier League (and it's not even close for second) but a poor in game tactician. United needed a passer in midfield and not only didn't have one on the pitch, but crucially also didn't have one on the bench. In hindsight, United would have been better dropping Rooney into midfield in place of Anderson and had Hernandez play up front with Welbeck. The Evans red card made such a move moot, but Rooney's passing would have been more important than his shooting in this case.

Posted by jeff on 10/24/2011

Hi wallace
Am a big fun of man u, yes we accept they beat us, its so embarrasing fergusson is to blame for everything that attacking mentallity killed us, but i know its too early to celebrate we've played with all the top four teams unlike them they have,nt.the league is still open something needs to be done with our defence and the midfield

Wallace Reply Things are not as bad as you might think. Vidic provides strength in defense and makes Ferdinand better and Cleverley makes the midfield flow. United's problem is a lack of experienced depth which is surprising because that's usually been the reason the team won the league.

Posted by MCFCBoy on 10/24/2011

What a game by James Milner eh ? At this point, it's redundant to praise Silva, Aguero and Kompany because they are brilliant every single game. But Milner, Balotelli, Lescott and Clichy really upped their game for this one.
My favorite part of the game was the movement of our 3 AM's. So fluid and interchangeable !! And to think we still have Johnson, Nasri, Razzak, even Aguero and Yaya who can slot into any of those spots at will. Not to mention the reserves like Nimely and Assulin as well.

Wallace Reply I thought Milner's performance was superb. He makes such smart runs and Silva knows how to get him the ball. Great combination.

Posted by Babatunde on 10/24/2011

EPL is just getting more exciting. Man-U lost their fighting spirit too son. By the way, that pass from Silva for Dzeko's second goal was, wait for it... delicious.

Wallace Reply I've never seen a United side capitulate that way. I wouldn't mind drawing United in the 3rd round of the Cup because another victory, should it occur, would really reinforce that a change has occurred.

Posted by okwara daniel on 10/24/2011

dis is still unbelieveable in my mind.

Posted by micky-2-times on 10/24/2011

Agree the scoreline was a bit much, especially as it was fairly even in the first half. Its just one game, 29 to go. United will be back, no mistake.
United without Rooney or Vidic are just not that good. Vidic makes Ferdinand look good, and gets shown up without him.
Give Silva Player of the year, right now. He is even better than Fabregas, which is saying something.
COME ON CITEH

Wallace Reply Silva has been better ironically because Tevez isn't in the lineup and always coming back for the ball.

Posted by Austin Blue on 10/24/2011

I'm trying to repeat the mantra "just one game," but as a lifelong City fan, this feels so much more significant. To go to Old Trafford, to pick an aggressive line-up, and then beat them off the park... And there's so much to take hope from. Milner was brilliant. Richards and Lescott were brilliant. Mario put in another Cantona like performance. Silva rose to the occasion. Mancini was class in the post match interview. I just hope we take this attitude to Wolves. I've watched too many years of City to not dread losing twice to ruin that perfect day.

Wallace Reply I know, I feel the same way.

Posted by vc on 10/24/2011

So, Do you think the pressure is on us now? I personally think that this win should boost our champions league performance. We badly need a win at Naples. I am more worried about CL at the moment. But this win will be written in history. SIX! man, unbelievable

Wallace Reply To me anything we get in the Champions League is a bonus this year. It's all about getting the team experience.

Posted by Avalonez on 10/24/2011

can we compare Man city to Barca now? nope, i guess not. yup Man utd were outclassed in their home turf but Man utd is Man utd, they will come back strongly. what Man utd lacking is they dont have a real playmaker like city had ( D. Silva ). they used Rooney as playmaker and as striker. yup we dont know if 11-11 until the final whistle, will it bring the same result or not. However that's what a young team brought, just like Arsenal did. well congrats to City and good luck for Man Utd next time.

Posted by Anand on 10/24/2011

Hi Wallace,

Totally excited by this win! It was really oh so good! But even with this 5 point lead, I still think united have the upper hand, primarily because they have now played all of top 6 once. While city still have to play chelsea, liverpool and arsenal. Do you think otherwise?

Wallace Reply United have certainly played the tougher schedule and were fortunate to get Arsenal at their lowest ebb in years. It won't be that easy for City.

Posted by John on 10/24/2011

Hey Wallace,
Sunday probably one of the best days of my life!!! But moving on, what are your thoughts on the prospect of City getting out of the UCL group? If we don't then, it could be a blessing in disguise as we can solely focus on winning the league and two domestic cups.

Wallace Reply I really can't get excited about the Champions League. Call me an old fart. I miss the European Cup.

Posted by Justin on 10/24/2011

I know it was goal #6, but the most unbelievable play came on the turned half volley 30 yard pass by Silva to split the defenders and set Dzeko free....the kid is pure class!

Wallace Reply Yeah... although De Gea ever so slightly out of position for the goal. The young Spaniard is the biggest reason why I think United won't win the league this year.

Posted by Merle on 10/24/2011

It seemed like all the bitterness and anger of being treated like uniteds ugly step-sister for all these years was unleashed in 4 minutes of football yesterday at the theatre of dreams. No realistic city fan could have seen this coming. Not to that scoreline. Mancini wanted to become more ruthless. That is what I saw on Sunday. Great win for city but they have a long season ahead of them yet.

Wallace, you have been very quiet on the Champions League. I know you said last year that city was a year ahead of schedule but they made it. City's fate is in their own hands, win out and you got a place. Lose or draw any of those games and others decide your fate. Do you see city advancing? What are the chances when Bayern comes to town?

Wallace Reply Yeah, I just have such a tough time getting excited about the Champions League. Maybe when Bayern come to town that will change. I don't see City getting out of the group and am fine with that. This year is all about experience.

Posted by Adithya on 10/24/2011

Hey Wallace, I'm a regular reader and I've developed an affection for Man City purely through reading your blog.
A couple of things I wanted to ask - have City now become favourites for the Premier League title? And what do you think of their chances in Europe? If they emerge from their group it would be a massive boost and I don't think anyone would want to draw City in the knockouts.
Secondly - City have shown that they can win by five or six when they get the start they want, but what if they don't? Do you think the team has enough commitment to keep trying when they aren't enjoying it any more? Quality they have by the bucketload, but are you sure Silva, Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko care as much about their club as Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez and Cleverley do? Because the last four have United to thank for their careers, while City's stars won't necessarily feel the same. I'm not suggesting they're dispassionate - just that they might not play their hearts out like United sometimes.

Wallace Reply Interesting comments. yes, unfortunately I think City are now favourites for the league. I say unfortunately because I'd much rather the club sneak up in the last couple of months of the season. Favourites in October is a lonely place.

City have the talent to win the Champions League and to tweak Platini and his status quo rules would be sweet, but I would be surprised if they made it out of the group.

Regarding the passion of the players for the club, it's a fair point. Winning cures a host of ills of course, but as you see with Tevez it's about playing more than winning.

Posted by David on 10/24/2011

Wally, I agree that the game was over at 3-1. When thinking of the game, I just forget the last 3 goals as United was so out of sorts. It seems the Tevez debacle has actually been a blessing in disguise for Mancini - the team/supporters got even more in his camp and he's really doing a good job this year. I know you've been skeptical on him before, but this combined with the subbing in the Villareal game really give me some confidence in him. (though starting Johnson at all seemed odd.)

Nice to see Lescott get some plaudits, he's really played well this year.

Wallace Reply Tevez was a Hughes loyalist. This is now Mancini's team.

Posted by Shadowblade on 10/24/2011

Well I won't lie that was such a very good week for me considering my allegiance to Arsenal. Never had United been outplayed in Old Trafd like that even sometimes when they were outplayed they still 've this annoying streak which is there never-die-attitude to get a result so it was really surprising to see they lost that attitude yesterday. This just makes it scarry if Man City could do that to Man U at Old Trafd I wonder what our fate would be when we come across them. It would really be unfair to call this one of the freakiest result considering what Man City did and not forgetting that not quite long ago Man Utd were dishing out the recipe to Arsenal. Then we thought we've seen it all until Man C came to Old Trafd. To tell you the truth I have never seen where fans walked away out with 20 mins left at Old Trafd. So yesterday was a novelle just praying it won't happen at the Emirate stadium. We shall know if Man U are over it when they visit Goodison park. Personally hope not.

Wallace Reply I thought Ramsey started to show his old spark...

Posted by Nathanael on 10/24/2011

Wallace,

Glad to see you writing from a fan's perspective. I was ready to stop reading your posts until I saw your headline. Part of enjoying the sport is being totally illogical and just supporting your team. It will crush you some days, but totally elate you others.

Wallace Reply Yeah, I have a hard time with the illogical. I'm always analyzing, sometimes to the detriment of enjoyment I suspect.

Posted by Hari on 10/24/2011

To Mark Payne,
Thank you from all us city fans for that gesture.
I hope you will give us the same respect in your future blogs.
Hard luck about yesterday but if anyone can recover from this its united...
all the best for the rest of the campaign..

Posted by Hari on 10/24/2011

Wallace,
next up, back to back matches against wolves and city have a pretty easy fixture list until liverpool at anfield on november end
then in december arsenal and chelsea......by december end we'l really have an idea how things stand......
Its too early but what moves do you see city and united making in january???

Wallace Reply City need very little. The long term world class centre back would be nice. Can City scout a good young defender who can turn into that player? And I still feel a veteran striker would be useful. Obviously SAF disagrees with me but I think United need a veteran keeper. De Gea has huge potential, but I think he's United's achilles heal. I also think United need a couple of veterans. John O'Shea's contribution to United over the years has been vastly under estimated. It wasn't that he was good, it was that he was competent in multiple positions and could bridge the gap when a regular was injured or suspended. City have a similar, if I think better, player in Zabaleta.

Posted by JahJah on 10/24/2011

@ what i believe was 5:23 Vancouver time I woke up nervous to watch the boys @ Old Trafford. @ 5:27 I knew we would win as long as we with stood the early pressure. Purple Nose's team selection was, what I thought at the time, cocky. How DARE you play Evans, Welbeck, Fletcher and even Anderson against us!!! And at the same time?? WOW! I tell all my United friends.. "Your weakness is your keeper, backline and youth." United have conceded the most chances on goal in the EPL. I didn't see this result coming but I believe as the year progresses the youth factor will make United drop more points. U cant rely on youth. What do you think he was thinking??? I mean REALLY???

Anyway, Wallace.... Richards' and Clichy's performance versus Jones, when he came on, and Evra's performance... Based on that one game alone, even before the sending off, I think they deserve a spot on the All star Mancunian team. I admit, one game doesn't solidify any spot in any team. But still.

Wallace Reply Evra stunk up the joint, but I'm not yet convinced about Clichy. I'm a fan of Jones and Richards goes walkabout far too much. But on the basis of that games. not even close.

Posted by Hari on 10/24/2011

Wallace,
yeah city arent expected to progress in the champs league but that is precisely why i am excited about it...because it IS abouit the experience...no pressure on us,and if we go into the europa league we could easily win it....

Wallace reply I think I'm just a European Cup snob... lol

Posted by Wilson on 10/24/2011

Im a Utd fan. Certainly hurts to lose 1-6, expecting to see heaps of goading and insults here as Soccernet comments tend to go down that road. But amazed to see optimistic and respectful City fans comments. Congrats on the victory.. and well written article Wallace..we will definitely be back!

Wallace Reply Of this I have no doubt.

Posted by hcohen on 10/24/2011

You mentioned David Silva only once in connection with the goal he scored. Any serious attempt to describe how City picked MU apart should mention David Silva at least 10 times.

Wallace Reply Going for brevity rather than trying to tap my inner Tolstoy...

Posted by Colin on 10/25/2011

Here in Singapore the majority of fans support United, Chelsea or Arsenal. So being a Citeh fan for the last 40+ years always earns more than a few jibes

Spent Sun nite at an outdoor screening to watch the Derby surrounded in a sea of United supporters.

When the game 1st kicked off they were quite vocal and buzzing but when Balotelli scored there was silence ... except yours truly jumping up and down and shouting like a mad man. Ditto for the next 2 goals and then there was a cheer when Fletcher scored to make it 3-1.

However it was bitter sweet to watch the clearly distressed Manure supporters try to cheer the few attempts that came their way - a bit pitiful and I don't mean this in a arrogant way. Then came goals 4, 5 and 6 and even the United supporters started turning on their team and cheered when Silva and Dzeko scored.

Incredible! Never thought I would see this. Guess there are fans and there are fans.

Thank you Citeh for partly erasing 40 years of hurt.

Posted by mason hayat on 10/25/2011

I am a gunner and would like to thank Man C for making Uniteds fans think twice before bringing up the 8-2 anymore.Our squad was going through big time crises at the time and also we were playing away, so what the bleep is their excuse? The Theatre of Nightmares is it?

Posted by Oldman Quashie on 10/25/2011

City resounding victory against their arch rival was astonishing and incredible.words cannot express what a heart would say but 6:1defeat against man u,was one of the happiest day in my life Im advising city not to be swollen headed by this feat but work extra hard to win the premier league title this year.kudos city.you make us proud.

Posted by Vico on 10/25/2011

Hey wallace, as ussual great article and thanks for making me fall in love with mancity with ur factual realistic analisis unlike some team blogs i have seen. mancity number one fan in LESOTHO southern africa

Posted by Adewumi Oluwaseun on 10/25/2011

Manchester united lost to a better side. But ferdinand is worn out, he should be on bench. Phil jones would have been up there, chicharito would have startde too, carrick is better than anderson. I'm not dissapointed at the score line but the line up, it sucks!!!

Wallace Reply United have won in the past with five in midfield so I was surprised when they went 4-4-2 despite this being a successful formation for them.

Posted by mason hayat on 10/25/2011

Hi its me again. What bothers me the most and makes me sick to my stomach is that most{if not all}United fans turned out to be{after the sixes}such bad losers as if football was invented by them and only for them, so therefor nobody is ALLOWED to beat them leave alone kicking their bleep as Man City did .They act as if they were embarrassingly crushed by school boys,not wanting to admit that the City team was way{and I mean way}superior and completely dominant through out the match and it didnt require to be a Maradona or Pele to realize this FACT.I probably sound a bit harsh yet who said life is always going to be a smooth ride? Enough is enough and I am damn sure that the City fans know exactly what I am talking about,the fact is that united not only severely lost the game on their turf with their favorite squad but the day will be remembered for ever as the day the world football fans realized which side of Manchester is ruling now.Lets wish M U good luck and no more nightmares .

Posted by Saheed salami on 10/25/2011

Am AC MILAN supporter,i started wishing Man.CITY when mancini arrived.am so happy 4 d manager & his team.UP SUPER CITY.

Posted by Martin Nazimek on 10/25/2011

Hey Wallace,

Good to hear from you mate. Took a vacation huh? I have never seen something like this weekend. City score 6 in OT and we go 5 points top of United. What an amazing feeling.
You said you have never seen a better squad builder than old purple nose, but we have something I have never seen in a squad. Mancini has 2 starting lineups at his disposal. He can include anyone and replace anyone at any point. Now thats amazing and the depth will show in the later points of the long season. Now injuries wont be that devastating as some other teams. We have the depth, and quality depth at that, to start 2 premiere league squads. Thats an amazing feet. Keep on writing Wallace. CTID

Wallace Reply Two starting lineups generally leads to unhappy players who want playing time. If Mancini pulls this off he'll be manager of the decade, not year.

Posted by emmacy on 10/25/2011

hi wallace it wz a black sunday for manchester united and it wz a palm sunday for city,i think silva and aguero are our main man dis season,kuddos 2 macini cuz am nt is fan bt frm now on i wil be a fan of roberto macini becoz of wat he did 2 manchester united bt neva d less i see city win d premier league bcoz of d depth in d team,the money factor and d fact dat dey defeated man u 6 - 1 at d theatre of dreams wil b a huge boost of confidence for them.AM CONSIDERING BEEN A CITY FAN BEFORE NEW YEAR.thank you city for making me happy.

Posted by Donnie on 10/25/2011

As a MU fans, my heart broken to pieces. I saw players lose their morale, lose their mind.
Even Barcelona couldn't make a Reds player face like this.
Attacking tradition held firmly, 11 or 10 players, against high-scoring team like City (or Barcelona), MU just kept attacking, that's sick, and fantastic, but still, sick.
Embarassed, but have to keep their cool.
For now, congratulation to City and the fans, their game deserve this extraordinary win.
As Arnold's' Terminator always said, "I'll be back".

GGMU

Posted by Toddymu on 10/25/2011

Hey Wallace
I Tend to disagree with most Manchester United Fans who says that because they paraded a youthful side against Manchester City made them loose. In that match man u had the likes of Ferdinand,Evra,Anderson, Flecther Nani Young Rooney, Let be objective Man City were the better side regardless of man u youthfull side. When did man u become Arsenal giving excuses of a young side as the cause of defeat?

Posted by Digga on 10/25/2011

Hey Wallace..great to have you back your columns are great and with the back and forth of the comments and ur responses I learn quite a bit. A question and a comment. The comment is about the attitudes of the City players. I keep reading about players understanding of what is happening at Eastlands. Yaya was talking about making history here. Micah asked/told his teammates to understand that they are world-class now and sometimes you will be forced to sit for the good of the squad. I believe Barry echoed Richards' comments. Now for the question with Tevez on his way out and Dzeko and Balotelli not being the most workmanlike of strikers, do you think we need another in January?

Wallace Reply I believe City need an experienced/veteran striker to be able to play the occasional game as needed. Let's say Balotelli is suspended for a game, Dzeko is out injured and Aguero takes a knock in the 27th minute of the first half. Who do City play up front? You need five strikers in a 25 man squad. Right now it isn't a problem but...

Posted by steelbanks on 10/25/2011

U think u had it good. I'm a kiwi City fan. I watched us win the world cup, then 2 hours later watched City put 6 past United!! Then I tried to sleep........

Posted by Ben on 10/25/2011

Wallace,

For a City fan you seem to love Utd quite a bit. Also, don't downgrade our performance to 3-1; 6-1 reflects the true nature of the match.

Wallace Reply I make a point of being informed about United and their tactics as they are City's biggest rivals. Also Ferguson's squad building is ultimately the model that City, and anyone else, will have to follow to be successful under the Status Quo rules being put in place throughout football.

I disagree that 6-1 reflects the true nature of the match. City played a near perfect match and took advantage of the Evans red card for a great win. The final four minutes represented a complete failure of United discipline - Evra attack into the box for example and only five United defenders in the box to contest the corner for Dzeko's first - rather than City domination although it was a joy to behold it so ruthlessly exploited. It is highly unlikely that United will be that undisciplined in any future contest, hence I feel 3-1 is a more accurate representation of City's domination.

Posted by Adithya on 10/26/2011

You're absolutely right about 6-1 not reflecting the nature of the match. And anyone who thinks a 6-1 result is reflective of the teams' relative strength is very badly mistaken.
In fact, now that the dust has settled, I'm not even sure City would have won without Jonny Evans' helping hand! Do you, Wallace?
And I couldn't agree more about City needing a veteran. One only has to recall Ryan Giggs' performance against Chelsea over two legs in the Champions League last season. Set up all three goals with simple, but excellent final balls.
That's the thing about veterans - they know that what gets the job done need not be brilliant or flashy.

Wallace Reply I'm pretty confident that City would have won without Evans being sent off. The team was starting to play some really nice football. But that did change the contest.

Posted by AARON MARK HENDRIX on 10/27/2011

The red card helped,but one has to say on the evidence of the 1st half,City were otw to a win.Im not here to talk about if,but's what if's etc,but here are the facts.UTD couldnt do anythin bcoz they didnt have a player who could hold,distribute and create chances with the ball.It was too predictable once down to 10,and even before that.Rooney dropping back to midfield proves this.Cleverly is one for the future,not the present.With a player like Silva,we coulda made it a good fight,even when down to 10.The team in general capitulated after the red,and though 6-1 is a bit flattering to city,no doubt who was the better team on the day.But this is one of many games that you'll need to win to prove those "shift of power" theories.Still not quite true,but with more performances like this one,it'll be pretty close.Lack an experienced head though I feel,just for the sake of having one,you should.You never know when you might need good calibre squad players too.And David Silva is class..

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Wallace Poulter Wallace Poulter is an award winning video game producer, designer, industry consultant and writer. He has been a football fanatic since the day he moved in next door to Brian Clough. "Cloughie" being the acknowledged genius that he was promptly moved out and went to manage Derby. A serviceable senior school left-back in his youth, Poulter played one season of Sunday league football as a striker proving conclusively that he was a serviceable senior school left-back! Today Poulter remains involved with football as a licensed referee and most recently as a consultant on a Football MMO.

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