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I like Roberto Mancini. I'm sure this will be a great relief to the City manager and he can now get a good night's sleep before the start of the season. But seriously, all I want in a manager is the perception that he can take the club to the next level. For City that is silverware and the Champions League and I believe Mancini will, given time, get City to both. Let us for the moment return to the final pre season game against Valencia which City won 2-0.
I point to this game because it appears to give a clear indication of the Italian's thinking for the coming season and the formation and tactics that will be employed.
You've seen me comment, continually it seems, about Mancini's use of the diamond formation while at Inter. Three strong ball winning defensive midfielders with a creative spark at the top of the diamond and two attackers. In such a formation the full backs have the responsibility to support aggressively in attack turning the formation into almost a 2-5-1-2 with a couple of the midfielders moving into forward positions as the play dictates. This is how City started against Valencia.
City kicked off with Boateng and Kompany in the middle of the defense with Micah Richards at right back and new signing Kolarov on the left. Nigel de Jong anchored the midfield three with Barry and Small Berries while Silva took the creative AMC role. Adebayor and Tevez then filled in the two frontmen positions.
And it looked pretty good. Boateng and Richards were switched and I expect the German to make right back his own. Richards still has some work to do in his positioning. Small Berries and Barry supported well and David Silva look high quality. Only the front two disappointed. Tevez was most effective last year in a pseudo AMC role in the 4-2-3-1 and so he kept coming back for the ball and ending up in the same area as Silva. They'll figure that out over time. Adebayor once again ran at defenders and lost the ball in tackles, that really isn't his forte but again give the team time to understand Adebayor's runs and that should be fine.
So there you have what I believe is the base formation this year and with the exception of Richards, the starting 11.
Once the substitutions started things got rather interesting in an educational sort of way. Adam Johnson and SWP came on for Silva and Tevez and the team moved to more of a 4-1-4-1 with de Jong in front of the back four and Adebayor alone up front.
SWP performed well and showed enough, I believe, as to why he should stay at the club. At half time there were three more changes, Kolo Toure coming on for Boateng which saw Richards again move out to right back, Vieira for de Jong and Given for Hart in straight like for like swops. Finally with 20 minutes or so to go Weiss replaced Barry, Lescott replaced Small Berries and with Kompany moving into midfield the team switched to a 4-2-3-1 with SWP in the AMC role.
There was a goal scoring cameo for Jo who has looked a lot better this pre season and also some nice situational awareness, from Vieira in particular when Lescott was pulled over to the left flank and Viera naturally slotted back into the centre of the defense.
One game, three specific formations and all of which can and I suspect will be used this season.
What was missing of course was Bellamy and Ireland and it is here the comparison with Capello comes into play. Two years ago Stephen Ireland was not only City's best player but could be considered one of the top five players in the Premier League so good was his form. Last year for the first couple of months of the season Bellamy was, by quite a comfortable margin, the best player in the Premier League - a statement that I'm well aware would generate hysterical laughter if we hadn't all seen it with our own eyes.
I would argue that both Bellamy and Ireland not only should be part of the City squad, but given the success last year of the 4-2-3-1 and the lack of fitness of players such as Silva and Tevez at the start of this season, that Bellamy and Ireland should be starting the game against Spurs with Adam Johnson playing the AMC role and Adebayor up front. (yes a 66 word sentence! beat my old record).
Communication appears to be the problem between the players and manager. Just as it was for Capello at Real Madrid. Infamously of course Capello decided that Beckham would not play after the former England captain announced that he was leaving for the MLS and within a month Capello had to completely change his tune. Beckham went on to play a crucial part in the success of Real that year.
It seems that a similar situation has taken place at City. Ireland was not playing well and Bellamy had issues playing multiple games in a row and various training limitations because of a chronic knee issue. Rather than find a way to work these players into the fold, it looks increasingly like they will leave City.
This is a waste and it reflects poorly on Mancini that he is unable to adjust his system and/or thinking to make it work. Again, exactly like Capello. Inflexible. Beckham is old, therefore his time is done. Rather than looking at the situation and saying Beckham has a skill that no other player in the entire England squad excels at the decision is to lose that skill rather than be creative.
Is such inflexibility a deal breaker? In a word, no. But it is easy for the media and fans to second guess a manager if such a decision is made and seems so obviously flawed.
If it is Champions League or bust for Mancini then neither Ireland or Bellamy should be sold as the next manager will hopefully be able to harness their talents. If, as is rumoured, Ireland and 18 million go to Aston Villa for James Milner it will rank as the biggest transfer heist possibly in Premier League history.
City it appears are about to make the same mistake as last summer when they sold a top player rather than send him out on loan. It cost Mark Hughes his job. I sincerely hope we are not about to see a repeat performance.
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Posted by The Archivist on 08/13/2010
Wow, we were on the same page until you started in with Bellers and Superman. Why do you seem to assert that the manager is completely responsible for the behavior of two players, one of whom, by any account, spent the second half of last season undermining the manager, and the other a confused young man who crumples in the face of adversity? Ireland played miserably under Hughes and Mancini last season, and was greatly responsible for the stoppage-time goals scored by ManU players in two derbies. After the "two dead grannies" incident a few years ago, Sven sent him to a psychotherapist, so that's three managers in a row Stevie has had problematic relationships with. Bellamy's now infamous recent interview was either (a) muntinous, or (b) Nedum-like in its foolhardiness. Why not be consistent and blame Mancini for all of Robinho's problems with the club? Furthermore, if Mancini had success in handling Ibra and Mario where others failed, then your argument seems even more bizarre.
Wallace Reply to your latter point if Mancini could handle those two, both of whom seem to have issues, then I'm surprised that he can't find a way to reach Bellamy and Ireland.
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Posted by The Archivist on 08/13/2010
Wallace wrote "...it reflects poorly on Mancini that he is unable to adjust his system and/or thinking to make it work. Again, exactly like Capello. Inflexible." Ummm....you just got finished detailing the three different formations Mancini played in the Valencia friendly. Mancini may well prove to have weaknesses as a manager, but I hardly think that "inflexibility" is one of them. Just the opposite would seem more likely - "loves to rotate too much" and "hasn't established a base formation" and "a new tinkerman, with players and formations" and "too much of a player's manager" and etc., etc.
The lethal mistake which Mancini, et al. are NOT going to make here is to keep these two around to destabilize the lockerroom. I think you were quite correct in asserting that Bellamy was one of the top players in the Prem last season, and I greatly admire his on-pitch performances, but he gave that interview with the because he is an incurable "attention whore" and "drama queen."
Wallace Reply I've consistently praised Mancini's tactical acumen. Which is why I find it strange that he can't work in Bellamy and Ireland. I would have thought that they could, and should, have been crucial this first month having rested up while a lot of players are still sluggish from the World Cup. I'm not sure we would have seen a Sven like start, but a 4-2-3-1 with Bellamy, Johnson and Ireland has real potential these first few games...
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Posted by ROB JACKSON on 08/13/2010
I think if Mancjni lets Bellamy "The Belter" leave it will prove he's not got a clue about good players and he's obsessed with putting his own overpriced squad on the pitch. Myself and 1000s of fellow City fans all want Bellamy to stay. Any team who get him will have a world class bargain... Wake up Mancini or get on your ice cream bike back home.
Rob Jackson [Bluebuddah]
Wallace Reply I think Bellamy is worth the effort. He has a level of speed that unlocks defenses. Adam Johnson is very quick, especially with the ball at this feet but he jinks and moves a lot while Bellamy is more a balls to the walls kind of attacker.
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Posted by Evan Georgiou on 08/13/2010
Mancini has to make a stand,just like he did last season with Tev's/Ade and Bellers when he told them that if they were unhappy that they could leave....I respect Roberto and its time that his players did so.
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Posted by Rowan on 08/13/2010
OK, so, one at a time:
- Bellamy is deadly because he stretches the opponent's right fullback with pace, which opens room for AMC and mobile CMs to penetrate further inside. City have only AJ who does this on the left side at present, and as you say, this is to a slightly lesser degree, given his more technical style. So, why get rid of your best unsettler of opposing RBs?
Because Balotelli is being lined up for the role. He's not quite as quick, but much stronger and more unpredictable, assuming he's playing, not throwing tantrums. He's also a lot younger, and less injury-prone.
Since Mancini wants Balotelli (who he knows and thinks he can handle), getting rid of Bellamy seems a bit less strange, good player though he is.
You could still be right in that Bellamy might be worth keeping for a season, but he is not indispensable, and I think Mancini has a plan of how to deal with the loss.
Also, Bellamy doesn't like not playing - which is one reason why he left Liverpool.
Wallace Reply To your last point, that's the one problem I have with Mancini's squad. Too many very good players... I know that sounds weird. But very good players expect to play all the time. You need a balance within a squad, a clear first team, a couple of sage veterans, a few quality youngsters and a group of squad players who can come in as needed.... (yes unfortunately I'm describing what Old Purple Nose does)
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Posted by Rowan on 08/13/2010
I think Ireland is a case of removal due to incompatibility in Mancini's system. His best role is ACM, but there are 2 kinds of ACM: pass-playing playmakers (like Xavi, Sneijder, J. Cole, and I think Silva) and pass-receiving finishers (like Gerrard, Lampard, Cahill, and, as you have said, Ireland).
The problem is that you can usually only have one ACM in a lineup. If you have 2 (say in 4-3-2-1), one or both has to be able to drift out wide, or your team gets too narrow. Additionally, 2 ACMs means only 1 striker, unless you want no width at all.
So teams must choose which style they want: playmaking ACM means close-passing football while finishing one generally means something more physical, using the wings more.
Either way, Ireland loses, though: Tevez is a better finisher, so he can play ACM behind Adebayor if City want a finisher there. If not, Silva (or AJ, or both) can play there.
In short, City have great options in that position, so Ireland doesn't fit the team.
Wallace Reply That's a very good overview...
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Posted by JumbaLion on 08/13/2010
do you think Hart or Given will start?
thanks!
Wallace Reply Given for the League and Europa League, Hart for League and FA Cup.... Depending on who plays the best by January there will be one number one.
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Posted by Elisha on 08/13/2010
Wallace,
Love your games. Don't love this commentary. Sorry to say it but I have to disagree with your opinion. I like Bellamy, I like Ireland, but they haven't proven to be winners. Especially with a team like City that has years of history weighing them down, you need to inject an entirely different culture to get over that hump and start winning trophies. I'm fine with getting rid of Tevez as well for that matter. This is a team sport, and as an avid sports follower here in the states very rarely do you see TEAMS win with such polarizing individual figures. Allowing personal success take a backseat to team success, knowing that in the end if your team is successful you'll be in the spotlight and get your due as well. Those are the kind of players we need, those are the kind of players that beat us 1-0 at home to take the last champions league spot. In the long run I think we'll be better off getting rid of the baggage and allowing our guys to just focus on winning!
Wallace Reply You may well be right. This certainly seems to be Mancini's thinking.
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Posted by Martin Nazimek on 08/13/2010
Wallace,
I find 2 things crucial to City success this year.
1. We need to win on the road. i know it was preseason, but all the matches in the US were sloppy defensively played matches. They need to gel and gel fast. We will have one of the best home records in the league, but the away form is what will make or break city this year.
2. I only see one true frontman on this squad, Ade. We need others to step up in the season to help him out. We were talkin bout signing Dzeko which I was a huge advocate for to have help up top. I love how deep our entire squad is and believe it will definitely help in the very long season. I would love to keep Ireland as a good manager will make ways to fit in best players. That goes for Robo as well if he comes back. Mancini can create all sorts of combinations, but has to be creative in fitting his best players to play. Ireland is that for me as well as Robo.
CTID
Wallace Reply Completely agree that away form will be crucial. City are missing two final pieces. The first is another striker, it looks like Mario Balotelli is Mancini's choice there. The second is a world class central defender, possibly a little older, maybe even on the down side of his career. Last year I didn't want John Terry, I would have loved to have seen Ricardo Calvalho join. This year the former Chelsea man has gone to Real Madrid which shows you at least one manager thinks he's still got enough left in the tank. That's the type of central defender City are missing. After that, it's just a matter of playing time as a team.
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Posted by Jesse on 08/13/2010
"Communication appears to be the problem between the players and manager. Just as it was for Capello at Real Madrid."
Wallace, could you speak up? Fabio can't hear you very well because your voice keeps echoing off his European Cup, two La Liga trophies, and Serie A trophy.
I am starting to get the theme of your blog. It can be expressed in two equations:
English speaking manager > non-english speaking player
English speaking player > non-english speaking manager
It doesn't matter if the english speaking player is insubordinate, lies about relatives dying, plays a ridiculously inaccurate crossfield pass at the end of a derby, refuses to mark Scholes in the 93rd minute of a derby, creates problems, sulks... if he speaks english as his first language he always right.
Of course in the case of a non native english speaking manager vs. a non native english speaking player, the player, if he is sulky, brazilian, and refuses to follow orders, is right.
Wallace Reply lol... er.... no, but funny. Given my backing for Michael Laudrup to be the City manager this kind of falls flat, but thanks for the giggle.
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Posted by Tawin Kim on 08/13/2010
I completely agree with what you say about Bellamy, Wallace. Bellamy was phenomenal last season and deadly when used effectively. Just because you bring a couple players in doesn't mean you overlook the rest of the squad. Bellamy plays with passion and gives his best every time he's out there. In addition to all of his abilities it's ludicrous to think that there are rumours that he's not even going to make the 25-man squad. On Ireland, I felt that he underperformed somewhat last season but most probably because he didn't get enough chances.
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Posted by Daniel on 08/13/2010
Interesting article, Wallace, and many thanks for it.
I agree about the formations used and find it very exciting to ponder how it will play out. I don't think the title is in contention because it will take time for the team to settle and they may very well flame out.
I disagree in regards to Ireland and Bellamy. As Rowan pointed out, Ireland will only play one position. Actually, he can play more than one but refuses to do so. He's too limited and can't be bothered to ever mark a man.
Bellamy is a different kettle of fish. I had dismissed all the reports of him being disruptive after Hughes' firing, but if it's accurate that he was yelling encouragement to Moyes after the fight and I saw him glad-handling Redknapp after they clinched 4th and then he goes to the press twice this week... well, that's cancerous. You can not win anywhere if the players control the locker room. It just doesn't work unless they and the manager are on the same page.
Still, thanks for the article!
Wallace Reply Mancini has made his decision and Bellamy is gone. I disagree, but obviously I missed the call from the boss asking me for my blessing on the decision (ahem! lol). At this point Bellamy should be sent out on loan, not sold. If, as I suspect, Mancini wins silverware and solidifys his position then so be it.
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Posted by Daniel on 08/13/2010
I'm not sure that anyone who wants Bellamy (and to whom Mancini and City are willing to sell *cough*Tottenham*cough*) can afford his wages. I realize it isn't confirmed, but the reports are he's being fined two-weeks pay for his press shenanigans list the price as 160,000 pounds. Are there many clubs that can afford 80,000 a week? I would think it would require something similar to what I'm hearing is being done with Ireland, i.e. pay off the player and then sell him to another team who can give him a wage structure in line with their means. Isn't this why Santos can't have Robinho on loan again? I had heard that City had to finance his wages at Santos in hopes he would find suitors due to World Cup performance... which seems to have not happened.
Wallace Reply I think Ireland is well within his rights to ask for a pay off from City. He has a contract that pays him a certain amount and the club and the player both entered into that. If the club now wants to get rid of him, at the very least they should pay off any difference in the Villa contract to City contract for the number of years left on the contract.
Bellamy has wages that will price him out of a move to most clubs. Whether Fulham can step up to 80,000 a week is the question. City will not a good transfer fee if the new club has to pay the full wage amount.
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Posted by Daniel on 08/13/2010
Don't get me wrong. I think they should pay Ireland too if they're going to ship him off. He's well within his rights to ask for the money. Clubs pay each other money to ship players back and forth, so why shouldn't a player be able to demand a sum to void a contract? I think they should and I hope Ireland gets his. I also hope a fresh start gives him what he needs to sort himself out on the field as well!
Thanks again for posting and responding. I would rather chat with you than any of the pundits!
Wallace Reply Based on the comments made tonight it looks like Ireland is going for certain.
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Posted by Salman on 08/13/2010
Wallace, im curious as to your opinion in regards the Shay Given and Joe Hart. While Joe has plenty of potential, I rate Given is the one the best 'keepers in the world and he singlehandedly saved Man City in quite a few games last year. Dont get me wrong I like Hart butI think anytime Hart starts while Given is not injured is madness. Your thoughts are appriciated.
Wallace Reply Right now I would rate Given higher than Hart which is why I think Hart should go out on loan until January. Hart was outstanding for Birmingham last year and City have the problem of having two of the top 5 keepers in the Premier League on their book. (Reina, Petr Cech and Gomes being the other three). Just this evening I see Given linked with Fulham and that makes sense seeing that Given (and Bellamy) were said to be two of the most vocal opponents of Hughes leaving.
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Posted by lex on 08/13/2010
Getting rid of Onuoha, Ireland, and Bellamy makes it seem like the club is losing a little of its soul. I understand Mancini is under intense pressure to deliver, and that means he should be able to shape the team as he sees fit, but something feels off. Now, as you said, we just have a collection of talented but pricey individuals, whose allegiance to the club is only due to their lucrative contracts...
The club feels more like a Chelsea than a Man Utd. I know people hate Man Utd, but one thing I like about Ferguson is he always prioritizes youth and home-grown talent. Rather than a quick buy (like buying an established partner for rooney) or a quick sell (letting go of berbatov), he keeps them together and gets them to play. Then again, he has far more influence at Old Trafford than Mancini ever will at Eastlands...
Bellamy isn't young, but that guy does more to earn his wages than most footballers (when he isn't causing off-field issues). At least we still have Richards...
Wallace Reply Don't disagree with any of this. It's a brave new world for City these days. I don't think I'm the only one who is torn - embracing the new money and really excited about the future and yet missing the days of a City team dominated by the academy.
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Posted by raymond on 08/14/2010
i am city supporter and soccer player. i watch city play day in day out and i wish city to make a difference. i just want to add that looking at the resources available for city, i see no reason while city cannot address the key problems that actually prevented them from success last season. first lavish some reasonable amount to improve on thier strike force last season. the problem they face last season was a lack of a playmaker or holding midfield to link the midfield and offensive line. on many occasions the city attackers do not recieve the kind of support that will enable them explode upfront. on suggestion in the primier league is modric of spurs or diego of juventus.
secondly the defensive line in city is not world class. to succeed in all competitions, they need to build a defense that can challenge the top forwards of the teams they are supposed to challenge.the most consistent clubs all have a reliable defense. a second striker like the guy from wolksburg is goo
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Posted by The Archivist on 08/14/2010
Wallace wrote "...if Mancini could handle those two, both of whom seem to have issues, then I'm surprised that he can't find a way to reach Bellamy and Ireland."
Well, maybe it's because Bellamy and Ireland are "unreachable" at this point. You've put the entire onus for the Bellamy impasse at Mancini's feet, but exactly how managers has Bellers NOT fallen out with over the course of his career? Only one in recent years, and that is his personal champion Hughes, who just happens to be the man who purchased Bellers for MCFC and who is Mancini's immediate predecessor. Maybe this is all about Hughes' dismissal, n'est-ce pas? I also notice that you didn't respond to my query as to why you're not blaming Mancini for the impasse with Robinho, as well. Good constructive man-management requires the cooperation of two parties, not just the manager, IMHO.
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Posted by AK on 08/15/2010
There is no place for Ireland anymore but Bellamy could've added a spark in last night's opening match vs. Spurs.
Bellamy is a disaster off the field, and he's an annoying and pesty player even on it, but there is no doubting his heart. He puts everything into the game. Plus those 2 goals in the Manc derby last year is enough reason he should be on the team. If somehow Mancini can convince him that by playing 50% of the season would be fantastic for City and for him (finish his career off with a bang, champions league, trophies, etc.) that would be the best result. But alas the fact he wasn't even on the subs list yesterday afternoon tells you he's on the way out.
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Posted by Alex on 08/18/2010
Hi. As a big fan of MC I would like to see someone with much more experience on the bench of this club. Mancini is solid manager, but results are not on his side. Personally, I would like to see Radomir Antic, Serbian manager, at his place. This is a man who left Barcelona and Real Madrid behind and took title with Atletico. With these quality players, which City have, the title won't be far.
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Wallace Poulter is an award winning video game producer, designer, industry consultant and writer. He has been a football fanatic since the day he moved in next door to Brian Clough. "Cloughie" being the acknowledged genius that he was promptly moved out and went to manage Derby. A serviceable senior school left-back in his youth, Poulter played one season of Sunday league football as a striker proving conclusively that he was a serviceable senior school left-back! Today Poulter remains involved with football as a licensed referee and most recently as a consultant on a Football MMO.
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