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It is possible that we are seeing a perfect storm. City with the ability to spend more than any other club, Liverpool handcuffed by the incompetence of Benitez, a reported 20 million pound contract for the Liverpool manager and the presence of the best striker in the world in Fernando Torres.
At this point surely the only thing keeping Rafa at Liverpool is the size of the compensation package that would be owed to the Liverpool manager and his staff. That Wednesday's result was seen less as an upset but more an inevitable outcome speaks volumes.
However as has been pointed out by numerous members of the media and fans alike, Liverpool are in a poor financial position. Enter Manchester City. If Ronaldo is worth 80 million pounds then Torres is surely worth 100 million. Such a sum would allow Liverpool to rebuild their defense and add another striker or two into the mix. The kicker, as it were, is City's financial clout. The club could offer an additional amount, over and above the transfer fee, to pay off the cost of Benitez and his staff. Say for example that the package would cost 30 million to remove them, then City could offer 130 million for Torres.
It wouldn't be presented like that of course. All I'm saying is if the only thing holding back a change at Liverpool is financial considerations then lets leverage that for City's benefit.
And the timing is perfect. With Torres injured and out a reported six weeks and both Gerrard and Benayoun sidelined as well Liverpool have a very slim chance of reclaiming a Champions League spot.
The problem of course is that City are the most logical rival for that fourth spot in the Champions League. In selling Torres, even an injured Torres who will not be back at full playing speed for at least two months, does Liverpool provide the ammunition to prevent themselves moving back up to fourth?
The Liverpool owners have talked about spending money in the summer. If they can and if, crucially, they can keep revenue flowing with either Europa League football or no European football at all next season then I don't think things are as dire at Liverpool as commentators are suggesting.
Up front, the pick up of Maxi Rodriguez appears on the surface to have been a fine piece of business. Certainly the back line needs to be rebuilt, anyone who thinks Glen Johnson is worth 1.8 million never mind 18 million is out of their mind. As I noted in the Hughes era, there are some quality bargains, as it were, to be found in the Bundesliga and three or four imports could quickly turn Liverpool around.
This is no doubt the discussion going on within Liverpool at the moment. That is, exactly how close are they to being able to right this ship?
What if Liverpool brought in Phillip Lahm, Per Mertesacker and either Mats Humels or Benedikt Howedes? Additionally throw in one additional striker to that and the current squad and Liverpool are not just challenging for a Champions League spot but the title. Can you get the five or so players that Liverpool need under the current constraints or does Torres go? The deal for Maxi shows creativity can get the job done.
City have the money. Time I think to test the resolve of the Liverpool owners. Do they in Rafa trust?
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Posted by roachyuk on 01/14/2010
well id do a deal for tevez/barry/micah richards bellamy and adabyor id settle for that no money just them players in return thanks
Wallace Reply lol...
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Posted by Kraken on 01/14/2010
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Posted by Andrew on 01/14/2010
As much as i'd love Torres at City, £100m for a striker who only plays half a season is pushin it a bit eh!?!
Wallace Reply Indeed. But if the owners want a signature signing he's the guy in the right situation (as in Liverpool have issues) that the club might be able to get.
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Posted by a finnigan on 01/14/2010
makes sense a bit but £30m compo.pay rafa on the drip garden leave it's called sammy lee is o.k. kenny could take over till may and while we pay rafa his wages he can't get a job or he loses he pay off lfc but torres is replacable say santa cruz £90m or £75m santa+richards and maybe make rafa work as a waiter in the canteen give him a week and he would be off
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Posted by kopite85 on 01/14/2010
ur surely having a joke mate why on earth would we sell el nino to city this is just another example of a stupid jurno who is jumping on the band wagon of liverpool doom and gloom stick to what u know best pal city and leave liverpool to those who care bout the club
Wallace Reply Funnily enough I do care about Liverpool. They are my brother's club and I still remember the great 70's teams. When they were playing in Europe the vast majority of the country supported Liverpool as they were representing England and did the country proud.
If the owners of Liverpool cannot invest in the club then they have to sell to build. Torres is the most sellable asset.
If Liverpool can pull off some more Maxi Rodriguez deals especially for the defense then maybe that's not the case.
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Posted by houdi elbow on 01/14/2010
dont think torres will be sold its the yank that need to *##* off
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Posted by bluevalentine on 01/14/2010
Utter bollocks. Makes no sense at all. Why give the Bin Dippers money to dig themselves out of the shit. And if Torres is going to be out of it for 2 months why don't we pick him up at the end of the season when we'd have more bargaining power.
Wallace Reply Because I don't think we have bargaining power in the summer. I think our bargaining power is now specifically because Torres is injured. So we offer money that Liverpool can use now for a player that they will not get the benefit of for a couple of months.
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Posted by Digger on 01/14/2010
Only problem is like Kaka, Torres wouldn't move to City. You need years and years to build up the sort of reputation you need to attract world class players, not just 6 months. Remember as of now City haven't won a thing for 34 years and even then it was the league cup.
Wallace Reply I disagree. Chelsea were in a somewhat similar situation - better yes but similar - and were able to bring in some very good players.
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Posted by Russ on 01/14/2010
City should not give money by way of buying players to any of the so called top four in the prem.
We don't want to allow Liverpool to rebuild by giving them 100 million, we don't want to help dig United out of their problems and we should not have been giving Arsenal millions either. These are all our rivals. We need them to fail. Chelsea...well we need some competition. There are plenty of good players around the world to buy without helping our rivals.
Its a new world order now, well a new prem order anyway
Wallace Replay Very valid argument Russ. I think the club messed with the top clubs in the Premier League this summer with the different moves that were made. But yes, you can argue that we should no longer deal with specific rivals and instead build further from abroad.
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Posted by pophead on 01/14/2010
no chance of torres leaving.
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Posted by Ian Carr on 01/14/2010
For starters, Torres has already stated in an interview last season that he would not play for any other English club and has referenced Italy as a preferred destination should he leave Liverpool.
City should dream on and realise that not every footballer is motivated by their money.
Wallace Reply Yeah Italy is in fact where I would anticipate Torres going for competitive reasons.
That being said it isn't about money any more. City have built a squad that can now challenge Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Arsenal for a top four spot and cup trophies. What is missing is a true world class player. Liverpool have two. City don't.
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Posted by Roxx on 01/14/2010
In Rafa we still trust!
he has been shackled by the debt of the club and has been very unlucky with injuries this season. We do not have the buying power of some clubs but Liverpool have never been a sacking club and we give the managers the time to turn things around unlike City.
We will be back stronger than ever and you will always be looking up at us no matter how many millions you have in the coffin.. won't buy you Torres... Elnino is priceless....
Wallace Reply This is the rose coloured glasses view that I honestly don't understand. It's all about blame the owners when Rafa has failed in the transfer market on a consistent basis. Liverpool are paying for poor squad building.
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Posted by Digger on 01/14/2010
Chelsea had qualified for the Champions League, had Jose as manager and were based in London. All attributes City cant boast.
Wallace Reply er no...Claudio Ranieri was the manager when the good players started to come on board.
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Posted by Mr Bluesky on 01/14/2010
With full respect to Liverpool and their fans, they have achieved everything City are dreaming of. But times change quickly in football and our time (City) has come. I can see us dominating domestic and European football for many many years to come. If we qualify for CL this season the blue touch paper will be lit. I would love Torres at City, I'd try and buy him now, get him fully treated and rested and save him for our assault next season. Good luck Liverpool... We've seen much worse days if that is any consolation.
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Posted by bigbaz on 01/14/2010
That team that lost last night was useless,completely shot of confidence,but the majority of the team was the same team that nearly won the league,when they come to our place last year they came from 2 down to win and played some fantastic football, good players dont suddenly become average,the answers in the dressing room.Ive seen Gerrard a lot this season and he looks p---ed off id go as far as to say feeling sorry for himself if Liverpool are smart hes the player they should sell, as at the moment hes still worth a hell of a lot as from next year his price will start to plummet.Liverpool have become far to dependent on him,i disagree about the back 4 they are very decent up front as well,in the middle of the park where liverpool have always excelled they have nothing, no wingers no real playmaker,maybe we could tempt them with stevie ireland, weiss or Johnson and a few bob.I have a softspot for Liverpool have always enjoyed their football,last night was shocking, sell stevie G fast
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Posted by David on 01/14/2010
Sorry Wallace, but if anything Rafa has overachieved in the transfer market. His record compares more than favourably with the recent dealings of the other top four clubs, in particular he has had far fewer expensive flops (especially compared with United and Chelsea). The one area he seems to have struggled in is the lower-mid ends of the squad, but that is an area where he's been forced to settle for risky 3rd choice signings and a lack of resources to hang on to decent squad players like Arbeloa, Crouch and Bellamy, all due to a UEFA cup level budget, and the inept dealings of former chief executive Rick Parry.
...and sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no chance of Torres agreeing to join City, even if H+G wanted to cash in there's no way he'd lower himself to sign for City. He's not going anywhere any time soon, and if he did leave in the coming seasons it would only be for the likes of Barca or one of the top Italian clubs.
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Posted by CTID on 01/15/2010
Who is Torres ? We have The one and only already TEVEZ !
Posted by Raz Man on 01/15/2010
Would prefer David Villa at £40m instead and to continue to see rafa and Liverpool suffer!!
Posted by DarkDefender on 01/15/2010
Its too early now, come summer and pool is out of CL then maybe and 100m way too much, 60 at tops. If Inter get G for 40 then its combined 100m. To pool fans wake up and smell the coffee, which one is more likeable, the owners getting rid of themselves or doin the necessary selling of G and T. Our chance of getting T is even better if/when BenBoy goes which will be in the summer. Only thing im worried is them getting somebody good to replace BenBoy like Hiddink.
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Wallace Poulter is an award winning video game producer, designer, industry consultant and writer. He has been a football fanatic since the day he moved in next door to Brian Clough. "Cloughie" being the acknowledged genius that he was promptly moved out and went to manage Derby. A serviceable senior school left-back in his youth, Poulter played one season of Sunday league football as a striker proving conclusively that he was a serviceable senior school left-back! Today Poulter remains involved with football as a licensed referee and most recently as a consultant on a Football MMO.
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