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Posted by Wallace Poulter on 01/05/2010

If there is one issue that ticks me off more than any other it is the stupid transfer rumours that we see all the time. You get the impression that the national media just make up transfer rumours for fits and giggles and to see if they can be more outrageous than the next newspaper or website. Honestly I have no idea what their criteria is. Do newspapers set minimum standards? Must the information come from a source within the club, or from a player's agent for example? Or do the journalists nip off to the pub for lunch and ask the locals who they'd like to see playing for their club?

The Giorgio Chiellini rumour was the most daft recently. The logic seems to have been City have just hired an Italian, City need defenders, Juventus is a bit down because they are only in the Europa League so Chiellini will be coming to City. Quick round of articles are produced followed a few days later inevitably by the "news" that City have been unable to pick up the Italian International.

Well duh...

Here's what I wrote recently on Norfstander's excellent blog as part of his City Vox Pops feature

The club is being linked with players from all the top Italian teams but unless a player has had a specific falling out with their coach (as Inter's Cordoba is alleged to have done) or is looking for playing time with the World Cup approaching then I believe you can eliminate Milan, Inter and Fiorentina as they are in the Champions League last 16 and similarly while disappointing for the clubs to end up in the Europa League, Juventus and Roma.

So players from Sampdoria, Genoa, Lazio, Parma and Napoli make the most practical sense. For example the rumour that the club is interested in Sampdoria striker Giampaolo Pazzini (or Antonio Cassano) is one of the few that passes the smell test as it were, whilst Giorgio Chiellini with Juventus does not.

Unless you look at the context of the situation and by this I mean the player, the team he plays for, whether he is an international needing playing time in a World Cup year, whether the player has had a falling out with the manager, what competitions that club are still in and whether after all of that would he fit tactically at the new club, only then can you make a realistic evaluation as to the likelihood of a transfer.

99% of all the players that any Premier League team are connected with in the national press fail this test.

So lets look at Patrick Vieira. From a player standpoint the former Arsenal captain knows the the Premier League. He's older now, more experienced if you will and plays a position where you can age gracefully. He plays for Inter who are in the Champions League but he doesn't play regularly, appears to have fallen out of favour with Jose Mourinho and needs regular football to be in the French squad for South Africa 2010.

Tactically Mancini is said to prefer three midfielder enforcers and an attacking midfielder even if he has shown great flexibility with the current City squad in the first three games in charge. Vieira fits from a tactical standpoint.

Which means the bottom line is that the Patrick Vieira to City rumour passes the smell test. That is all. If such a move comes to pass, I look forward to seeing how this plays out further.

Use the criteria above when looking at the January transfer stories for any club. It really helps you cut down to the realistic targets.

Comments

Posted by Evan Georgiou on 01/05/2010

Great article,just a thought....why would we need Vieira if we could just a easily get a younger,stronger,fitter "enforcer" from elsewhere..I strongly believe that Mancini will buy at least one CB and a left Back in advance of this as he knows that Zabaletta,De Jong,Kompany and Barry can already do the Vieira job....

Wallace Reply The only reason I can see for Mancini targeting Vieira is that he knows the players specific strengths and weaknesses and is able to see how he would fit into the squad. Buying a new player, however talented, is always a crap shoot even though you've done your homework on the player. If Mancini has identified a couple of things he needs and knows Vieira can provide them then it makes sense to me.

Posted by Jim Kanichirayil-Chicago on 01/05/2010

Using the above mentioned "smell-test", how would Nevin Subotic from the Bundesliga fit in? He's a young defender, playing in a top league, on a team that isn't playing in Europe as far as I can tell, and fits in an area of need for City. I've heard the rumors and this one seems to make sense to me...

Wallace Reply Subotic is certainly considered a good up and coming player. At age 21 I think the concern would be not enough experience to step into the side immediately and that appears to be the City need right now. Dortmund are 5th in the Bundesliga and close enough to sniffing a Champions League spot so I find it highly doubtful that they would sell. I think the player would have concerns about whether they would play regularly when Toure and Lescott return and the Serbian needs regular play with Serbia's qualification for the World Cup.

Also unlike some situations with negative player/manager interaction Subotic actually followed his Dortmund coach, Jurgen Klopp, from Mainz.

So given all of that personally I see a move as unlikely in January.

Posted by Justin on 01/05/2010

Boooo Wallace!

Half the fun of the transfer window is hearing all of these amazing...potentially fantastic signings. However, if you do put any credence to them...then it will only disappoint. To me it is like being a kid in a candy store or playing a fantasy game. Who do you want for City? Agreed that you can't believe everything, but it is fun to dream. A player's agent's dog's former vet told me that City have put in a bid for Maicon!

Wallace Reply Fair enough Justin. I just dislike when they are presented as legitimate transfer possibilities when really they are just pie in the sky.

Posted by Martin Nazimek on 01/05/2010

Even though I dont put much faith into those rumors, I do enjoy reading them. It helps me think more about the team I love throughout the week as opposed to not as much. It gives me, the average fan, a way to think about what could be how good we can be. Now I know that we are a very good club, but these rumors make me think of what these crazy players can accomplish in our squad. CTID

Posted by Mr. Disagreeable on 01/06/2010

Well that playing time is a factor (if Cassano can't get into the Azzuri squad at Samp, why would Man City be any different?), the money is also important. Players have followed the cash to mixed results in the past, and likely will do so again. An as Man City is one of the few with much spending power . . .

I still think Vieira is a waste of money at this point. He never was a great distributor, and he certainly isn't a box-to-box operator any more.

Posted by Alex on 01/06/2010

The rumors linking City with more forwards are the worst. Cassano could be useful, but only if Robinho goes immediately. And with Samp pushing for a European place, moving to a club where he will be a forward along with Adebayor, Santa Cruz, Tevez, Bellamy, Benjani and possibly still Robinho isn't going to do anything to help with a call up. He plays regularly at Samp, and is in the home nation he wants to play for. Leaving Italy will do crap for his chances of being noticed. I think Robinho ought to go, and I think the money should be invested in a centre-half or two. No supestars required, just a proven defender. Upson, Shawcross, and Gary Cahill come to mind, in that order. West Ham will give up Upson without much fuss, and he can keep Lescott out of the team. Shawcross won't go as easily but he is a bit younger, so he can handle working his way into favor. Then City need to stop the signings and let the team gel. They are still in with a shout this year, they need time.

Posted by pramod z kumar on 01/06/2010

Man City if they want to buy anyone should go for Van Bommel...

Posted by Cam on 01/06/2010

i dont think that the Chiellini rumor is that far off. Man City has tons of money and their cb's arent that great, why would they not go after Chiellini, it would make a million times more sense than going after an above average, but not great, striker such as cassano. They have recently added 5 strikers, those are the rumors that bug me. At least Chiellini wouldn't be a massive waste of money, like Pazzini or Cassano would be. I'm sure City would have to pay over the top for Chiellini, but they have shown that they have no problem doing so. If someone would have told you 3 days ago that City was in a bid for Veron, you could have written this same article. Why would City ever want Veron, he's already been a flop once in the PL and he's even older and slower now. City have shown that they will go for crazy transfers. Anyway, point is, going for Chiellini may be crazy, but at least its not dumb, like going for Cassano or Pazzini would be. If I had the billions I'd give him a look.

Wallace Reply Chiellini is a good player. I'm just saying that regardless of the money City bid there is no way Juventus will part with him him in January.

Posted by Tosin on 01/06/2010

I totally agree with you Wallace, I have grown totally tired of these unrealistic rumours...in fact i don't bother myself reading them anymore, the headlines put me off.

Annoyingly, as AW has hinted that he may get a striker, all sorts of incredible names have come up, from Carlton Cole, Ruud Van Nistelrooy to Huntelaar and even Berbatov.

Honestly, I wish I could just call all the newspaper editors and insult them

Posted by hassan babani on 01/06/2010

i think robinho is still going to be very relevant at eastland.as much as cassano is to come on board,bellamy n santa c.or benjani n cruz shud be the ones making way but not the talented brazillian who's only having a bad moment at city.city wil as well need an additional mdf in the make of fab,iniesta plus a cb n a lb.three signings cud b sufficient for city...

Posted by micky-2-times on 01/12/2010

It is fun to hear about the rumours. How much fun would it be to see Torres at Eastlands? Come on now, you know you would.......

Wallace Reply If City qualify for the Champions League and Liverpool do not I think that is exactly what will happen and I also think that Liverpool will squeeze extra money out of City to pay the severance for Rafa as well. As in "Torres will cost you $90 million and you have to pay an extra $15 million as such a transfer will see Rafa leave." I'm quite serious, it's the way Liverpool get out from under the Rafa mess and also get the money to rebuild their team.

Posted by micky-2-times on 01/14/2010

I don't think Torres would play for another English club. I think he was a Liverpool supporter growing up. He, and the other Spanish players will go back to Spain, if Rafa is sacked, at the end of the season, as looks likely now. Also, at £90 Million, he wouldn't be worth that price. There are other players that can be brought in. I know its not my money, and the owners can do what they like, but paying that kind of money, for any player, is ridiculous. Remember Tevez only cost £25 Million. CITY NEED TO LEARN TO WALK BEFORE THEY CAN FLY!.

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Wallace Poulter Wallace Poulter is an award winning video game producer, designer, industry consultant and writer. He has been a football fanatic since the day he moved in next door to Brian Clough. "Cloughie" being the acknowledged genius that he was promptly moved out and went to manage Derby. A serviceable senior school left-back in his youth, Poulter played one season of Sunday league football as a striker proving conclusively that he was a serviceable senior school left-back! Today Poulter remains involved with football as a licensed referee and most recently as a consultant on a Football MMO.

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