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Posted by John Brewin on 08/26/2009

The newspaper headlines were much as expected, with The Sun's "Scum" being the prime sample of media outrage at the goings on at Upton Park on Tuesday night. That a man was stabbed in the chest reflected a seriousness to the situation, so too the tears of Jack Collison as he left the field at the end of West Ham's extra-time win over Millwall.

Collison bravely decided to play in the match after losing his father to a motorcycle accident on Sunday, the day after Hammers defender Calum Davenport had suffered a knife attack that seems likely to end his footballing career. West Ham, a troubled place as it is, could really have done without the embarassment brought to their club by the actions of a section of knuckle-dragging fans during, before and after their Carling Cup match with Millwall.

Once the two teams were pulled from the hat for a second round tie many had predicted trouble between two sets of rival fans who have a long-running emnity and, to adopt the tiresome vernacular of the hooligan, have not had the chance for a "tear up" since 2005. This one was always likely to "go off" and while certain media wail and gnash teeth about what happened, questions must be asked over what has made the ructions of Tuesday night acceptable to a sizeable minority of idiots.

The likes of Sun journalist Shaun Custis have decried the incidents as "back to the seventies", the era when hooliganism began to blight the English game, yet this would seem to suggest that football violence is a thing of the past. It is not, though it is an accepted view that those who continue with hooligan "firms" do so at sites away from the ground. Indeed, many of the active hooligans no longer even attend matches, either by virtue of banning orders, finance or a disinterest in the game itself.

The most striking thing about Tuesday's violence was that much of it took place in the ground. All-seater stadia and the gentrification of football have played their part in abating the whiff of pitchside sulphur. Football remains part of a society that can hardly be said to have become less violent since the "English disease" and its effects began to wear off at the end of the 80s. Though, that said, the skirmishes in the ground seemed to centre around West Ham fans showing off rather than any old-style charge at opposition fans.

Cheap tickets for a lower category game, a return of some of the old school of thugs and a group of ill-advised youngsters wanting to show off to the former "top boys" have been labelled as possible factors behind the trouble. Other observers have blamed the police's event management with roads blocked off and a subsequent failure to delay the kick-off when fans were struggling to get into the ground on time.

Definitely to blame were those who chose to invade the pitch yet to watch this not particularly angry mob cavort and prance on to the hallowed Boleyn Ground pitch was not to catch a sight of fear but instead mockery and perhaps a little pity. There seemed to be little aggression towards the players or even rival fans from those who made it on to the grass. Indeed, few could feel threatened by this ragged selection of distended bare bellies, teenagers in cheap sportsgear and one angry-looking lady with a handbag.

The activities of this rabble have been labelled by one friend of the site as "cultural tourism", in that those who took part were attempting to emulate tales of yore. It is this fetishism towards the old ways that are surely a leading factor behind the antics at West Ham.

Films like "Green Street", based ludicrously around an American joining a Hammers' "firm", and "The Football Factory", starring mockney godhead Danny Dyer, have given hooliganism a Hollywood hue and air of acceptability. So too the truly horrible documentary series "the Real Football Factories" which features the aforementioned Dyer, drawing deep on a cigarette and swigging a pint of lager while he meets "firms" from around the world while hailing them, in a broad East End accent, for behaviour that is "pwopah naughty" (the hooligan must always have a speech impediment).

There are also the libraries full of hooligan books, penned by dunderheads and full of turgid prose bragging about ends being taken, rivals being "mugged off" and other firms being "mob handed" yet still "run".

To the young, impressionable or terminally dull-witted, such material glorifies violence and makes it attractive.

And, while Sky Sports News were reporting the incidents at Upton Park on Tuesday they cut away to adverts for new film "The Firm", a sheened-up remake of the Allan Clarke classic that exposed the existential crisis of the 80's casual hooligan. Clarke's film was attempting to show the pointlessness of football violence, the remake's trailer looks like another glamming-up job guaranteed to turn weak minds.

The media has been quick, as ever, to condemn, yet with the other hand it is galvanising the very same sub-culture centred around violence and aggression that it expresses such outrage towards.

Comments

Posted by ana on 08/26/2009

West Ham should be banned from CC. I am sure if Chelsea were involved in such a "ugly scenes", you John "ManU fan" Brewin has been screeming for a ban.

Posted by Nikolas Poore on 08/26/2009

It´s a shame,as a passionate follower of english football, to see such disgraceful scenes.I once believed that this useless violance was a problem of the past.Let us hope that this was only an exception(how naive).To see these useless thugs not only to battle themselves but also to destroy property of normal people and to hurt police personell makes me angry.They are so useless.They damage the image of english football,they frighten the local people and they are a tumor damaging this beautiful sport

Posted by keith on 08/26/2009

If clubs can be deducted points for financial reasons and innocent supporters suffer then the only logical solution to these problems are to suspend games in which the teams are involed and award the points to opponents. The consequent relegation might impact the supporters. personally I think both clubs should be eliminated from the FA. Maybe this would send a message.

Posted by John on 08/26/2009

Keith- Absolutely agree with you to eliminate both teams from the FA. Even with all the camera's etc. the Police & Clubs will never be able to ID all the criminal idiots who took part in this. No good suspending only a few because there are many more thousands left to fill in the gaps.

Posted by Phillip on 08/26/2009

Is there no fun to be had by little clowning around on the pitch...big noise about nothing!

Posted by jason on 08/26/2009

Although the scenes from yesterdays game were shocking, the idea that both teams should be removed form the FA are ludicrous at best. As everyone has said, it was a minority of supporters involved in the melee. To even ban the club from the CC would be outrageous. If it had been Man U, Chelsea, or another more acceptable team, there wouldn't be even one suggestion of a ban. Millwall and West Ham are looked down upon by everyone. No wonder the media are having a field day.

Posted by DeWaterpoort on 08/26/2009

There so much history between WHU and Millwall. If you don't understand that, you don't understand what happened last night.

You can hear it in the cheering at the WHU goals. Probably the loudest you will ever hear a crowd cheer in your life....

Posted by vishaal on 08/27/2009

I don't think they should be banned, and fan's shouldn't be given lifetime bans or whatever was mentioned by the FA. Instead I think that the Fa should crack down on the media for the glorification of "firms" and football violence. Sometimes people genuinely try to just show the pointless violence and how it's marred the sport, but other groups of people simply try to make it into a crazy underground mob of football. And that's really why those fans were fighting - simply on a whim and because it seemed like a cry to the history books that have glorified the rivalries of clubs worldwide.

Posted by Martin on 08/27/2009

Keith- You have no knowledge of football do you? In fact you've never been to a game have you? Come on be honest, you're commenting on something you know nothing about. stick to something you're knowledgeable on.

Posted by Chris on 09/05/2009

This goes to show everyone how passionate people are about soccer/football! it's great that these random games against some low level opponent are basically life and death for so many ppl. but seriously, how braindead do such fans have to be, that they need to be seperated from other fans with fences and police. it's clearly the culture that allows it, because in north america all fans can sit together, without wasted empty seats between them, fences blocking their view, and families can go to games without fear of getting killed! honestly, europe u've had hundreds of years more experience than us, grow up!!! that being said, i love the passion europeans have about soccer/football but show it with your amazing chants, and other ways besides beating up your opponents.

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