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Posted by David Young on 09/26/2010

Carling Cup hangover? Or a grossly complacent and sloppy performance by a group of players that thought they only had to turn up to win? Seeing as Arsene Wenger made eight changes from the team that started against Spurs midweek, let's go with the latter, shall we?

Before talking about Arsenal’s display, it is only fair to say that West Brom were magnificent yesterday and thoroughly deserved their victory. They competed from the first whistle to the last. They took their game to the Gunners and looked the better side all afternoon. They attacked with pace and real intent and were organised and focussed in defence.


Arsene Wenger Put His Head in His Hands at The Grove Yesterday - He Wasn't The Only One ©Getty Images

However, as good as West Brom were, it does not excuse the performance of an Arsenal team that has aspirations of winning a title. It was lamentable, undisciplined and totally unprofessional. It would be nice to put it down the team having a collective “off-day” but, unfortunately, one couldn’t help but sense that most of yesterday’s performance was down to arrogance and laziness.

Abou Diaby and Alex Song seemed to be having their own private competition as to who could give the ball away the most with artistic impression points being added for doing so in the slackest way possible. Andrey Arshavin looked disinterested, which is becoming something of a trademark for him, and you might have thought that Emmanuel Eboue, given a Premier League start in a season where he is more likely to play as a utility player, might have been keen to impress. You would have thought wrong.

And that was just the midfield. Up front, Marouane Chamakh was totally anonymous and to say the defence looked shaky all afternoon would be far too generous. The fullbacks were constantly terrorised by West Brom’s wide-players and, at times, the back four looked all over the place.

And then there was the goalkeeping. It was hard to know whether to actually feel a little sorry for Manuel Almunia. In the first half he kept the Gunners in the game making one tremendous save and also saving a penalty. After the break though, a catastrophic blunder saw him throw in the Baggies’s second goal and all his good work was undone. Any sympathy you might feel soon gets lost in the frustration of seeing Arsenal’s goalkeeper yet again take one step forward and two steps back. In an afternoon of ineptitude, it was his mistake that essentially cost Arsenal the match - but he wasn't solely to blame for what was a humiliating defeat.

One also has to question Arsene Wenger. Having got to the interval at nil-nil - and to have been fortunate to have done so - you might have thought this would have been one of the rare occasions when the Frenchman had a tea-throwing tantrum in the dressing room at half-time. And if that didn’t happen, surely he would deliver an inspirational speech that would pull the players out of their malaise and onto glory? Whatever he said at the interval, it had zero impact because the second half started as shoddily as the first half had been played out - only this time West Brom punished the Gunners with two quick and well-deserved goals.

Finally, Wenger saw fit to replace the pathetic Diaby and hapless Eboue with Tomas Rosicky and Jack Wilshere. It was a change that might have been better at half-time and before conceding a two-goal lead, but better late than never. Wilshere’s first contribution was to sweep a gorgeous ball out to the left-wing. It was a pass that showed more maturity, class and vision than anything Abou Diaby had produced in the preceding hour.

Though the Gunners conceded a third on the break amid more shambolic defending, the introductions of the substitutes did improve matters greatly and Samir Nasri, the one player in the starting eleven who could still hold his head up high at the final whistle, profited from the impetus that the fresh blood provided, scoring a couple in reply. As it was, the fight-back came too late and, to be honest, anything other than a West Brom win would have been a travesty of an outcome based on the whole ninety minutes. Arsenal got exactly what they deserved - absolutely nothing.

Arsene Wenger said after the match they he would have to analyse what went wrong but that suggests there was some sort of mystery as to why the Gunners were so poor. I don’t think there was any mystery to it at all and several individuals in that squad need to take a good look at themselves and ask themselves a few searching questions. The manager should at least be a bit clearer in his mind as to who the passengers are in his squad and who the real winners are.

The only consolation on the back of yesterday’s shambles was that, over the weekend, Chelsea and Spurs were also beaten and Manchester United and Liverpool were held to draws. Whilst it is infuriating to have squandered a golden opportunity to have made up some ground on Chelsea ahead of next weekend’s trip to Stamford Bridge, the other results did offer a bit of damage limitation.

It was all such a contrast to the glorious midweek trip to Spurs in the Carling Cup. That night Arsenal played some scintillating football and came away with a rousing and thoroughly-deserved win. It was a marvellous collective effort but Jack Wilshere does have to be singled out for particular praise. He orchestrated more or less everything good that Arsenal did and the whole game marched to his beat.

The kid is eighteen years old and yet he has the vision, temperament and bravery of a player ten years older than that. It would be easy to get carried away with that one performance but when he came on yesterday he looked far more accomplished and comfortable on the ball than either Diaby and Song. Tuesday night was not a flash in the pan for Jack Wilshere. He has looked good all season and, having been presented with a chance by Arsene Wenger, he appears to be taking it. We are going to see a lot more from him in the coming months.

The players now have to pick themselves up ahead of Tuesday night’s trip to Partizan Belgrade in the Champions League. Hopefully, their embarrassment at yesterday’s display ought to be motivation enough to turn things around - and they certainly need to ensure they do that ahead of next weekend.

Comments

Posted by Wesley on 09/26/2010

Arsene seriously needs to look into himself and realize that some of the players are not up to par. He has money at his disposal but yet still don't use it. What, is he trying to do the impossible with so called philosophy?

Posted by david chow on 09/27/2010

david is right - arsenal did not deserve to win last weekend. graham is right too - almunia needs to be replaced if arsenal is to contend for the league title.

Posted by titansgunner12thman on 09/27/2010

This is a signature Wenger team of the late 2000. Shambolic defending with a sister's of the poor goalkeeper. How Wenger doesn't see that defense has been a problem enough to spend on it is beyond me. I don't need a bunch of big money signings, Chamakh and Squaillici(sp) were brillant and shrewd buys, but at some point a top quality defender and goalkeeper should be considered. Arsenal never have problems with goals. It's the continually average and shaky defense that must be addressed. Now. Graham is right, until the Arsenal address the defensive side of the ball with pure class and quality, we should and Wenger should expect the same confounding defeats and draws that always seem to come.

Posted by David Fitch on 09/27/2010

Glad you gave west brom the credit for outplaying Arsenal you can say they played badly which should not take anything away from the other team. My fear is that if we look at what happened so far this season Arsenal have played world class on others average football which seems to be what Arsenal have been doing for the past four seasons,many fans thought this team was better than the past teams but they have played average games this year with some luck at Liverpool sunderland when will they learn if they want to win the premier league they have to be consistent. The other fear is for the next match with Chelsea who beat this West brom team by six and if they do lose that would be only one point from three games, so lets hope they can change into the world class Arsenal and get there title hopes back on track.

Posted by rith_Angkor Wat on 09/27/2010

Sadly we got a nightmare again. This year we are looking for the top 3 again, maybe. The drought might be continue... Anyway, I's glad to see every time the club win. Good luck Arsen...!!

Posted by naija+soccer on 09/27/2010

I think this is a one-off and we all shouldn't get carried away. We ll do better this season than the last 5 years. We may not win the league but we ll come second.

Posted by Arsenal Diehard on 09/27/2010

I totally agree with you Mr. Young.
What I notice most is that the midfield didn't function at all and it's cause problem to the defense.
Mr. Wenger should be brave enough to change the midfield during half-time when he sees that they didn't perform well on the first half.
When Almunia save the penalty I though it's would be a morale booster to the team but no, they still perform poorly.
We have to credit to West Browmwich, they play good football and they give their heart out to win the game.
I think after the Spurs games, which we win, it's take out the spark from the players.
They take it easy and have no motivation to win the game early.
Yes, we deserve to lose this games.

Posted by CK on 09/27/2010

The fight back from 3:0 down to 3:2 meaning Arsenal had the ability on hand. Underestimate the opponent is the main problem. Using 70% of already weaken workforce by reserving the resource for Partizan Belgrade game is not a smart move....unless till the game under comfortable lead. Player to play 2 games in a week is a min requirement - they are all PROFESSIONAL!

Posted by ttl on 09/27/2010

from the performance of the sunderland game, i was full of expectancy for arsenal this season. it was 2 points lost, but the way the team reacted and played with 10 men was gritty enough to suggest that we'll see a much solid arsenal this season... a team that won't implode when the going goes against them (think Wigan game)..
but this home game against WBA really left much to be desired...
there is still january to look out for, to see if we splash some cash for players after reporting record profits... arsenal's spine this season appears to be Fab, Vermahleen, RVP and Walcott... we can do with half of this quartet missing, or maybe 3/4... but it appears now that if 4/4 is missing, Arsenal have a huge enough gap, that cannot be plugged by the current corp of players...
biggest dissapointment thus far is surely AA - the Russian has simply not turned up

Posted by sylvester chilolo on 09/27/2010

Arsenal only started playing when Rosicky & the small man with big ideas,Jack,came on.pull up your socks,Mr Wenger.that sort of display should never be repeated.it was pathetic to say the least.all our players seemed like they were highly intoxicated with alcohol.i expect a better performance against Chelsea.Arsenal cannot keep losing to the blues & to the reds in perpetuity.we need consistency from now on.let's show character,Mr Wenger,shall we?this is a friendly warning.

Posted by bren on 09/27/2010

I could'nt have put it much better.
Horay for Nasri!

Posted by Ben on 09/27/2010

I strongly agree that Andrey Arshavin looked disinterested from the start of the season. The game play very poorly, giving the ball away and no creative passing that they normally do. As an Arsenal fan i hope they do well the next game.

Posted by Barry on 09/27/2010

Speechless

Truely, it's Arsene's glorious past that save him from being removed from the helm. Almunia and Fabianski look like circus crowns that consistently give funs to our opponents. Like last time when we were playing against Spurs, Fab was beaten so easily in the near post by Robbie Keane. Can you imagine this is the sort of goalkeepers that we have to challenge for the title?

Posted by don thompson on 09/27/2010

i believe the players on any team be it professional or @ your local youth club, are an extension of the manager and that each game is won on the training grounds!!! looks to me that the youngster is working it out on the training grounds and it is translating to his play on the pitch!!! maybe the veterans need to take a lesson from the young wilshire and wenger also should set an example that if you dont prove yourself on the training grounds youll be sipping tea with him on the bench even if it means playing only 10 players ive tried it and it works gunners please stop acting like premadonnas and play as if your lives depend on it and wenger you should set the example to them that their lives(careers) do in fact depend it i have a two young sons watching you guys play here on maui and after seeing your pittiful performance on sat would relish a chance to take your spot on the training field and rip your spot on the squad from your non deserving hands as would a million other players

Posted by Olatunde 'Dumila on 09/27/2010

Wenger is going senile thinking he's a tin god who can do no wrong, what was he thinking starting Eboue and Diaby in that match, he lost it.

Posted by MBD on 09/27/2010

I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE ARSENAL FANS WORLD WIDE DESERVE AN APOLOGY FROM ARSENE WENGER AND THE PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR THE LOSS.THANK YOU

Posted by Archway on 09/27/2010

Absolutely spot on. But will Monsieur Arrogance take heed? It's about as likely as Diaby orchestrating a win against Chelski.

Posted by Anonymous on 09/27/2010

There is no mistery in that game. It boils up to the same point. Arsenal desperately needs a top class Goal keeper, a top class central defender and one more top quality striker. And more than that the players should understand it clearly that the game played on saturday does not befit a team challenging for Premiership title and surely Arsenal does not come anywhere close to the best in Europe. This was a performance worse than the second team usually gives. and do not forget there are no small team anymore.
The supporters cannot sit through an Arsenal match and live a nightmare for ninety minutes especially with a Wes Brom. Arsenal has got the very bad habit of getting completely off target when it comes close to leading the Premiership. This has been the case last year also. At this rate we cannot vouch for our team even if it has ten points lead with five ganes to go. We usually get caught. There is something that should be done. Lastly Arsenal needs some solid players.

Posted by Godwin Samuel on 09/27/2010

it was a show of shame for a team like arsenal at emirate.if arsenal intend to win trophies this season, they must show character and consistency in their game.their match against westbrom was a nightmare.i dont want to remember it anymore.

Posted by ifeanyi udemezue on 09/27/2010

You have said it all Dave. It was a bad performance. Like Arsene Wenger, i will prefer not to bame Almunia alone though he was disappointing. The midlield was flat. Diaby was his usual inconsistent self. Song was woeful in his screening duty. Sagna and Clichy were not at their best. Luckily, Man U and Spurs did not turn up themselves. Now City is up there. We can only pray and hope that they will play better and more respectfully at Stamford Bridge come sunday.

Posted by pronto ameh on 09/27/2010

this is arsenal worst display in a decade.

Posted by Anonymous on 09/27/2010

let us have faith in rubbish goalkeepers.

Posted by Uncle Bear on 09/27/2010

Really difficult to explain. Our most consistent players this season so far (Clichy, Sagna and Song) were all very shaky in this game. Almunia once again showed his inconsistence, he can be a back up but not the no. 1 at Arsenal.

David, you are very correct that we should have Jack and Tomas on the pitch immediately after the break.

May be the players already have Chelsea in their mind. The lesson is - for the same 3 points, is it easier to get from West Bromwich or Chelsea? Everybody knows the answer!!

Posted by Maran on 09/27/2010

There is no mystery about what went wrong. It was yet another unconvincing display by the team. It was the same issue that affected the performance for few seasons. The lack of spirit and the will to win afflicts the team time to time. Partly the lack of class, partly the lack of leadership and partly the culture at Arsenal. Talking of culture, they are becoming the symbol of modern footballing culture; "I get my money anyway!". How many times last season we have lamented about some of the players performances. Diaby, Denilson, Eboue and Clichy do not deserve the generous chances they had been offered. And if this goes on, nothing will change the players' collective attitude. It is impressive how the newer players get inflicted with the disease that exists within the team at such a pace. Chamakh is one good example. Indeed he had assimilated very fast. Kocsielny has been disappointing. What Arsene got to do, didn't do and we face the same fate yet again. There is no mystery about it

Posted by Anonymous on 09/27/2010

the goalkeeper situation is becoming an unavoidable albatross. good and occasionally outstanding saves are what any decent keeper makes - penalty saves too.
but the basic errors are what the best keepers keep to a bare minimum.
i've supported almunia up to now, but i do believe a better keeper would have kept arsenal in the match on saturday, despite the defence having an off day.

both song and chamakh deserve some slack - chamakh's had a great start, song has been a star.
diaby is a mystery - how can he go from so good to so bad so quickly??! injury problems perhaps, but little excuse.
arshavin isn't even putting in the good performances to balance out his poor ones. compared to wilshere, cesc and nasri - who he should be competing with as the best player on the pitch - he is currently a shadow. one that needs dropping.

Posted by high hopes dashed on 09/27/2010

arsenal proved that they are still at the same old crappy level. they just cant play good stuff. if attack works defense fails. if everything is working fine still late goals conceded. it sucks!

predicting a 3-0 drubbing by chelsea at stamford. no 5-0. 6-0?

Posted by Charles on 09/27/2010

Each game should be treated as a final if Arsanal is to win a title.Mr Wenger has learnt nothing and forgot nothing unless he stops his arrogant attitude Arsanal will lose many games.

Posted by Isaac on 09/27/2010

Arsenal performance was below par. Arsene Wenger should do something to strenghting the team. Such performance is totally unacceptable. AW should get a new goalkeeper and world class defenders. A team like Arsenal should not be a one-man team. I hope things turn for better.

Posted by VW on 09/27/2010

Rightly said Mr. Young.

Arsenal, you need to have the nerve of steel to be champions and you still are a long way off!!!

Posted by Olabode on 09/27/2010

The team showed great spirit from the start of the season and i stil very much believe in the squad but saturdays's game has to be analysed thoroughly...was it down to low morale or tiredness or laziness,disinterest or collectively they lacked the psyche totake advantage everytime their fierciest rivals drop points?In as much as Almunia has showed he can be in the post,he sometimes loses concentration,second goal was totally unacceptable from a professional and the third was just indecision on his part, we cant afford to accomodate such errors again and that is why we nid a change of goalkeeper and probably a good psychologist to work on the players' psyche.
might not be down to spending heavily but rather the players cos hey have to have a winning and champion's spirit...we should bounce back at belgrade...

Posted by Olatunde on 09/27/2010

Arsenal will not be league champions this season...if they win the Carling Cup it will probably be bacuse one of the other smaller resileint teams would have managed to defeat Man U. Le Prof needs to build some resilience to the team. I couldnt believe the stuff i was seeing on that day...

Posted by Danny on 09/27/2010

why we Arsenal fans are deceiving ourselves, oh maybe some fan are ignorant of our squad? No matter how powerful or prdeunt u are, u can never give what u dont have, if u dare give what u dont have u are a thief or be indebted, perhaps is a fiction. when will we Arsenal fans accept that almost our players are average if not one or two among them,sooner u realised ur capabilities better u save urself unnecessary pressure. Arsenal is (unpredictable) just like any other average team in the league. Even if we buy PETER CECH it will stil be thesame story till when our team is overhaul thanks

Posted by tbh on 09/27/2010

Chelsea will swamp all over Arsenal if they were to play that way. Abou Diaby's performance is similar to the ones he put in the World Cup for France. Back 4 are not strong enough, and no one has to say anything about the Goalkeeper, because it is a known fact that there are no good goalkeepers in the Arsenal camp.

Posted by DAVIE JUNIOR on 09/27/2010

Poor combination how can Wenger give Ebue and Diaby and Song a chance in a game where Arsenal needs to attack rather than defend.

Posted by Peter on 09/27/2010

It's an eye sore to watch the team you love so much put on a dreadful performance!What will happen with chelsea?I cannot fathom!

Posted by mwiku on 09/27/2010

you could tell from the first minutes of the game that arsenal was not as motivated. an embarrassing perfomance from a team which is expected to have silver ware this season.
almunia's hands don't impress at all,wonder how he got his way up there.
the best teams in the world have the best goal keepers.

Posted by charles on 09/27/2010

i have supportrd arsenal as a kid. watched our glorious and worst moments but saturday's performannce was an embarrassment............humilation ...these players owe us an apology

Posted by JoeUSA on 09/27/2010

Spot on. I think Koscielny also warranted individual mention for his mistakes.

I can understand that Wenger thought he would add some power and enthusiasm with Eboue and Diaby, but he should have realized in the first 10 minutes that it was a huge mistake.

Posted by jk on 09/27/2010

Wenger's central midfield choices cost them the game. Diaby does great as a sub, when someone else has already established a high pace for the game. He could also be used as the starting holding mid, if Song is inj. But with both he and Song in the center mid, neither one would play an attacking, pass. So the outside players and striker, get frustrated and stop making good runs.

Really if Wenger wanted to rest Wilshire and Rosicky, he should have pushed Arshiven inside to attacking mid (where he actually looks good) benched Diaby and started Vela on the left wing

Posted by nnamdi on 09/27/2010

If they play this way in stamford bridge, Drogba and co will demolish them without mercy. We were lucky to come away with a 3-2 for the sake of our goal difference.
Frankly I expected more from diaby and song but i guess everyone gets a bad day once in a while. Hopefully this will be the only charity donation of points for the rest of the season.

Posted by lasdel on 09/27/2010

Monsiour Wenger deserves all the blame for this loss. Even if you consider your opposition inferior, bring out your loaded mercenary out and kill the game first. You can then retire the "bigger boys" and give them enough rest for future big games.

More importantly, Arsenal major bane over the years is lack of winning desire/hunger. We often turn out as if result do not matter to us. To a tougher coach, some of our players will not resume in the second half.

The only thing to do now to appease fans is to do it over Chelsea. Yes, it is possible - if we play to our optimum.

Posted by Mano on 09/27/2010

Players need to be replaced.
1)Almunia
2)Lukasz Fabianski
3)Gael Clichy
4)Diaby

Posted by Fritz Alfrd on 09/27/2010

David, I was wondering; Do you still believe that Almunia will show his professionalism and step up despite being unsettled all summer? Even when he isn't unsettled, he does not come through when necessary. Wenger needed to put his best in early, get the lead, and then bring the likes of Diaby and Eboue to mop up. The russian hasn't been sat down yet and he's shown no interest in wearing the colors. I did say that we cannot afford to have a GK who gives away points as opposed to one who actually gains us points by just being solid, not spectacular. I would take Friedel right now at 39 over the whole lot!

Posted by MD fan on 09/27/2010

Arsene has to take his fair share for not starting a creative player other than Nasri. Arsenal to do list for the January transfer window:
1. Almunia and Fabianski out, Given in.
2. Diaby and Eboue out, replaced by typical wide midfilders. We have enough in the middle of the field.

Posted by SoshiArsenal on 09/27/2010

Reasons for Arsenal's defeat:
1. Diaby was not match fit and looked all over the place
2. Diaby, Song and Eboue was never going to offer creativity going forward
3. Arshavin, a match winner in the making, looks disinterested. As usual.
4. Clichy was shambolic, offering neither defensive stability or attacking threat. Its time to play Gibbs
5. Vela was brought on to allow more attacking threat. But why was he stationed on the left? We were never going to need him at the byeline to cross when we had only Chamakh ffs.. Instead he shud be in the box or on the right for him to cut in and shoot.. Poor decision, given that most of our players on the left cut in( e.g rosicky, nasri, arshavin)
6. Almunia was a joke. Yes, he saved the penalty but he was comical for the second and third goal. Do we need him? Even a bid for Schwarzer seems called for now we have this crisis.

Posted by eze on 09/27/2010

Arsenal performance was undeniably very poor against west Brom. Most of the players looked hungover from the win at Spurs. Chelsea on sunday will be a disaster based on current form. The only hope is to have Fabregas, Walcott and Van P back b4 Sunday. If not we will recieve plenty goals from Chelsea and Wenger can theorize all he wants but we need better players and goalkeepers.

Posted by GunnersFTW on 09/27/2010

David, I completely agree with your reasons for why Arsenal lost.

The players simply thought that they were going to win, and did not have the drive to go all out. I believe that Diaby, Eboue, Arshavin and Chamakh are all great players, who can all singlehandedly make a difference in a match. Well, they cannot always be at the top of their form, but still they weren't even pushing themselves hard enough.

We need players who are hungry to win, whether against Man Utd or West Brom. Whether that player's Diaby, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas or anyone else Wenger's willing to spend on, I think it's time to tell those people in the squad to buck up and change their attitudes, or get out of the team.

Posted by chinedu uguru on 09/27/2010

For me, the entire team performed badly. For Arsenal to be champions the players have to be consistent with good performance.
it is changing inconsistency to consistency that will make the difference for us.
Good luck

Posted by Goh Tien Kok on 09/27/2010

The problem with Arsenal on saturday is that all the players is sloppy. They don't close down oponnent, passing is slow and no sense of urgency. When they lost the ball, they don't come back fast to help out in the defence. A good team are supposed to do well in their defence and don't give away unnecessary goal. Arsenal players are not hard working enough. Their mid field don't return fast enough to help out in the defence. Especially the wingers. Their passing and attack are not fast enough. They have good passing but don't have the speed to unlock the oponnent defence.

Posted by AZ Chris on 09/27/2010

You can't pin it all on Almunia. Squillaci and Kozscielny looked lost at times. Diaby and Song were trying to do too much, and I am always worried when Song is involved in scoring opportunities. And Arshavin is in a daze right now. All of these problems must be addressed if Arsenal are going to lift silverware at the end of the year. Acting like Mark Schwarzer, or any other goalkeeper, will be our saving grace is to stick our heads in the sand to all the other issues facing The Gunners right now.

Posted by yau masudi on 09/27/2010

arsene again, he has done once more. he thinks that west bron is an eassy side. but let us agree with him that they are an easy side, but why should he start diaby that is not match fit. song has not performed the way he used to do, the looked more like the season is over.

Posted by ocnrad on 09/27/2010

Wenger this is not end of the fight he should now think that any team can beat arsenal, and he has the best team in the world to beat any team in this world if West Brom beat them so is arsenal can beat chelsea next Sunday so to the manager select the best you think can deliver the best results he has seen what his Alex Song is out of form am not saying that he is not a good player just find him good replacement Arsenal can win trophies come on guys lets support them.

Posted by lockdown12 on 09/27/2010

Some of you are forgetting Arsenal have injuries. They have yet to pair Vermaelen with Squilacci in central defense, or play Gibbs ahead of Clichy since the former limped off against Tottenham. But I agree with David that Wenger should have put his subs in at half time, if nothing else to send a message to Diaby and Eboue that their hold-on-to-the-ball-too-long ways are going to end if they want to see first team action again.

Posted by Ekpo Bassey-Duke on 09/27/2010

Wenger and the Arsenal owners are only interested in the profit made which they would share amongst themselves and feel good. To them, the fans can go to hell so long as they make their money.I don't want to have a heart attack, hence I now do not watch Arsenal live matches. It's sad that this is going to be another trophiless season. WHO IS GOING TO SAVE US FROM WENGER?

Posted by Alexander Ekechukwu on 09/27/2010

Arsene is arrogant: does not admit his errors.Need first class keeper.Sell Fabiansky and Alumnia.Get Shy Givens in January even on loan. It is good Arsenal's humiliation came when the club declared profits. For Wenger profit is more important than spending a bit high to win a trophy. He buys cheap.Sound good but quality does not always come at the cheap.Diaby has stayed long at Arsenal and not improved much:a hero one day and a villain next day.Should be sold as well as Eboue. Gibbs should compete with Clichy who lacks concentration.Kocselny should never partner Vermaelen unless no way out. Arshavin is playing badly and does not seem to care: salary assured.Chamak is not yet battle ready. Too soft.For January we need Very good GK, a striker and a physicalpresence in midfielder. Relying on Song alone is not the answer and Diaby and Denilson not the answer.Right now no Arsenal without Fabrigas and Nasri.With Wenger sticking to his own ideas only no trophy again this season

Posted by SGunner on 09/27/2010

I have to agree with David Young. I felt utterly let down by my beloved Gunners. I felt there wasn't enough chances created by having Eboue and Diaby in the team. I would have liked to have seen Rosicky on the wing instead of Eboue from the get go if the plan was to rest young Jack the lad since he's been playing quite a bit recently. That would have atleast gave us 3 creative outlets in midfield while Song and Diaby work on breaking up play and helping out defensively while Nasri, Arshavin and Rosicky create chances and breakdown the opposition. Its sad to see we didn't make full use of the chance to tighten the gap to the league leaders but hopefully we can still win the title having seen the other big teams also slip up this week. I still believe that if our big guns stay fit, we have a major chance this season. Good luck Gunners!

Posted by maza on 09/27/2010

deeply disappointed. collevtively we were very poor. i've mulled over this disgraceful loss trying to analyze what went wrong. i have come to this conclusion.

1. almunia and fabianski need to go. we need a new top class GK. almunia can either be sold or stay as the number 2 and fabianski can go back to poland.

2. from the moment i saw the team sheet i just couldnt understand why Wenger started Eboue, Song and Diaby. to take it one step further, a 4-2-3-1 at home to west brom for me is way too cautious. what happened to the 4-3-3 of last season? i would have at least started Rosicky in place of eboue who is poor playing on the right side of midfeild. he is more effective coming on as a late sub.

3. defensively we were very disorganized. but what on earth were song and diaby doing?? these guys were meant to be sheilding the back four but instead they were passing the ball like they were half blind or something. diaby in particual, i have not sympathy for, he is just average to me.

Posted by Oba on 09/27/2010

I totally agree with danny, it doesnt matter if you have buffon in your goal, a keeper is only as good as the team in front of him,you play so badly and you expect your gk to give you a result you dont deserve? almost the whole team is garbage to be honest, the manager is soft, theres no drive, the culture in the club is lackadesical, arsenal is only and will continue to be pretenders till wenger leaves, that man is not in tune with reality

Posted by Dare Jacobs on 09/27/2010

wenger needs to wake up,maybe he did not know the number of fans that lose whenever he lost. i dont know if anyone can get me his number or his email may be we may talk to his head.......... we are disapiont with his last performance,we need trophy we are tired entertianment............... arsen wenger pls wake up

Posted by goonergetya on 09/27/2010

David,come on mate this is not one of your better articles this could have been written by a man u or chelsea correspondent very harsh it's like you've been waiting to stick the boot in.I
mean, you make it sound like WBA were world beaters give us a break.One bad result and the whole Arsenal community is in uproar what about getting behind the team.This game told us nothing new, Almunia is a joke,Diaby less said the better,Song hates defensive work,Gibbs is our best left back(i know he wasn't playing)i could go on,but as i said we all know these things.So come on David look at your Article not much on beating our arch rivals in a superb performance but plenty on our poor effort against WBA Get behind the team all you fans good or bad.

Go Gunners

Posted by Brett on 09/27/2010

Sunday's match at Stamford bridge will be a real test. Chelsea will punish us for any mistakes we make so whoever Wegner starts better be in form and ready to play. I didn't see the whole game but saw the score at half and thought, oh we must just be hitting the post and missing chances. Nope! Just a good old fashion lazy performance against a team I thought we would be 5 - nil! It is sad to see all the injuries piling up already, sometimes I wonder who is paying our medical staff, and who is paying our fitness staff to get these guys healthy and ready for games cause I would say our 4 best players are injured - RVP, Fab, Vermaelen and Theo... And we are only 5 games in.

Come on Gunners.

Posted by Michael on 09/28/2010

Agree- radical change is needed. Denilson, Diaby, Almunia and Fabiansky all need to go. What is Diaby's role exactly? Wenger originally signed him to replace Patrick Viera, but he doesn't play the midfield enforcer nor is he a creative spark. Wenger is normally pretty astute with the signings but Koscielny is a joke. Almunia goes without saying- i'm just baffled why everyone can see he is useless except Wenger- it's Senderos all over again. I think his pride won't let him admit that players he signed/made are not up to standard. If he won't sign a new keeper then throw one of the kids (Mannone/Szniesky) in the deep end- it did Joe Hart the world of good. Mannone was in last season when Almunia & Fabiansky were injured for about a month and he was fantastic (remember the Fulham game at Craven Cottage?)- give him a go!

Posted by Dominic_Perignon on 09/28/2010

I think the biggest point about Arsenal is that they can win big games but that isn't where the Championship is decided. The problem is dropping far too many points to the likes of West Brom, Sunderland and Stoke City. It's been the same for years and for not being able to get them up for those type of games, Wenger, so good everywhere else, has to take ultimate responsibility.

Posted by abe on 09/28/2010

This was the worst Arsenal Performance I have seen in the past 10-15 years. There was no desire or sense of urgency, leaving the other detail posted by my felow gunners. At some point I was like" Am I watching Arsenal for real?" There are some off days for any team, but to say this was an off day doesn't do justice to the truth. To be honest, we should kiss our chance of winning the title good bye. One point though, Hats off to Nasri who had a great game!

Posted by Dave on 09/28/2010

David, well said. I want to add a few comments on some of our player's performance and ability :-

Diaby -- ( good player if he has the right mind set )Currently, he is not fit to play in Premier league with his current lazy mind set as always. Either he changes or drop him.

Eboue --- he is never a winner. Can only come on as a sub. No end product with occasional flares only.

Clichy --- Good athlete, but no footballing mind. Does not know how to defend propperly. No end product in his up front support. Alawys a liability in defence. It is time to give Gibbs a chance to start.

Sagna --- Needs to improve in crossing the ball when in support.

Almunia ---- good shot blocker, but no positional sense as a keeper. We need to have a world class keeper if we want to win anything.

Arshavin --- Attitude problem. He needs a rest.

All in all, I do feel that Arsenal need one more holding midfielder to give them more option against different oppositions.

Posted by Shad on 09/28/2010

Pitiful performance.
The loss could be seen once the starting 11 walked out on the pitch. Eboue, Song & Diaby can't muster half the creativity Wilshere can on his own. Arshavin? He might as well be sipping a vodka in Russia. Looks lost, clumsy and disinterested. Clichy is pacy, but woeful defensively. I remember him being nutmegged similarly by Nani who zoomed off to score.
Almunia. Sigh. Good shot stopper but can't scare a bird out of the 18.
AW needs to tweak the team. Drop the non-starters (Arsh, Diaby, Clichy, Eboue) and let's focus on getting a gelled, winning first 11. The players need to raise their game. There are no walk over teams anymore!

Posted by chelsea5star on 09/28/2010

chelsea for life but arsnel is the team of the futher if they can keep this present crop of players togather!for a young team and to be in the top three they will keep improving!

Posted by Anonymous on 09/28/2010

WAAAAAAAH. Arsenal lost a football game and now I have nothing better to do than cry about it.


Posted by lalok_gunners on 09/28/2010

sloppy!!!!!!
very sloppy performance from arsenal!!!!
especially midfield(before rosicky and wilshere come in), defense and almunia....
arshavin sucks!!!!
nasri clearly not comfortable as CAM just like before, why wenger put him there??look when he play at flank, 2 goals!!!!
defense shouldnt let west brom's player get near to their goal post....
and almunia is beaten eventhough the ball is shot straight at him....
come on wenger, buy a better keeper...
given want to get out from man city, get him!!!!!!
otherwise arsenal wont get any silverware again for this season!!!!

Posted by PANTHALEON on 09/28/2010

Arsene wenger, why dont you buy Osaze Peter Odemwingie. he is very good. better than ashervin

Posted by innocent nzuma on 09/28/2010

Arsene needs to swallow his pride and get a new goalkeeper.Manuel is just an average keeper who should be playing in league one.why wenger still keeps some players in the team is a mystery.Shay Given is itching to play but Wenger seems not to notice that is amazing.we stand no chance against chelsea and manchester we are still behind.next weekend we are going to cry again.

Posted by Shad on 09/28/2010

And just to add on to what Dominic said, the other problem is not just losing to the likes of Stoke, WBA or whichever other team that surprises us, BUT also the ability n quickness to learn from it and bounce back to winning ways. It's all been too often that after such embarrassments, the team capitulates completely and takes about 4-5 games to find its feet. Whether in Europe (remember ManU/CR7 destroying us?)
And sadly such displays don't help motivate players of Fab's ilk to remain.
Come on AW, let's get Given in Jan, ship out Flappy-handski, bench Arsh till he remembers it's football & not bird-watching he's paid to do, and get another Striker. RvP will never finish a season, Bendtner is only good off the bench, Walcott is a crock-star and Chamakh is just adapting. Dead wood to go: Diaby, Fabianski, Almunia.

Posted by Patrick on 09/28/2010

But Michael, Mannone was not very sharp in the next two games they played. I say give Wojech a chance because Fabianski and Almunia are terrible. What they really should do is sign steklenburg or get given. It also seems as if Fabregas is the heart and sole of the team and without him, the team is lost. I still think that this team has the goods to be challengers but definitely not winners. Need a goalie to do that.

Posted by trips on 09/28/2010

The thing I'm baffled about is how Arshavin is in the starting eleven so consistently. He has missed more clear cut chances on goal than the rest of the team combined. I'd rather see a younger player in there like Vela or Lansbury because at least they'll hustle around. At the very least it'd put some pressure on Arshavin to put in better performances to stay in the lineup.

Posted by JJL on 09/28/2010

I'll throw my voice with the lot that are nodding furiously at DY's post. I'll add that individual performances aside, the single biggest thing lacking in the side that lost to the Baggies was a leader on the pitch. Instead we had a fragmented side that was played lost and scared. Not to say we lacked experience -- plenty of veteran Premiership campaigners in the first 11. But experience doesn't necessarily mean leadership. So perhaps the one positive for me beyond Jack and Nasri was that most of the starting players would have played much better had Cesc or Vermaelen been on the pitch instead of the treatment table. That said, our dependence on a couple of players doesn't bode well for a difficult and long season.

One thing I'll add is that Song has disappointed me greatly so far. Last season he was a revelation. I think the good press and the World Cup went to his head. When he was just a stalwart holding midfielder he was great. He needs to stop trying to be Zidane. Quickly.

Posted by Steven Chong on 09/29/2010

The game against West Brom is merely an off-day affair for the entire team that played last Saturday. Alarm bells should not be ringing as their rivals did not fare any much better. However, it is certainly a golden opportunity to close the gap with Chelsea. Why did the team play so badly? How could all the top three falter at the same time? Is this a coincidence?

We can excuse Chelsea for this defeat as Macini's team does have vast talents in his armoury to beat any team in Europe. In terms of personnels, they are the most equiped team in the Premier League. Why would they not beat Chelsea? It is no surprise.

Manchester United's clash away at Bolton is no easy feat. Based on statistics, it is not a fixture United is expected to win.

For the Arsenal, it is fixture that they should take all 3 points but why did they falter? It makes one wonder is there any conspiracy?

Posted by wengerling on 09/30/2010

the intent of the writer is under question. on a whole, i agree with him that going by the Arsenal display, the team deserved to go home with nothing. however, the writer seems to be having some sort of vendetta against a few players. the writer even appears to have some sort of wild beliefs that these players are passengers when severaly these players have been crucial to the course. it would be nice to read his opinions this weekend when the same players, no doubt, are called to action against chelsea

Posted by Parthiban Krishnan on 09/30/2010

Well this is the reason why Arsenal was not winning any trophies the last five seasons. It looks like they are going to continue that again this season. The real Arsenal that we witnessed in 2004 is long gone and this Arsenal doesn't have any of that Arsenal's character or steel. They are long way of the Champions folder...... unless the Prof do some changes.......

Posted by pumkin eater on 09/30/2010

I,m a fan but it,s becoming like being an english cricket fan in the nineties when you knew as soon as a decent team put pressure on them they,d fold.

Posted by Cal on 10/02/2010

Subliminally you are getting fidgety in your seat, which I suppose is understandable, as we have been going at this for almost a half-hour. Fidgety is a good thing because that tells me you are extremely turned on... either that or you have to pee really badly. I go with option one and try to bank on your current state of arousal. "Tiff, will you bend over for me again? I want to look at your ass again." I say. Without even thinking you get up and bend over the chair, looking back at my cock you begin rubbing your hands over your cheeks, to tease me. Even in your jeans I can tell that tight ass of yours would be a delicious little meal, this spurs me on even more as I begin to stroke myself faster.
This was too much for Paul and he came. Ahhh. Oh my Cathy felt him expand even more as cum flowed into her waiting mouth. Ohh Cathy baby. Pauls orgasm was long and strong. Cathy couldnt believe how much cum he had. She nearly came herself as she listened to Tracy.

Posted by Anonymous on 10/03/2010

another loss again, and we continue to hear the same song and chorus that we display a better game without wining. I just hope that better games will have their trophies one day, but as of today, we are not there yet. scoring or wining a game is what matter first and then come the style or the way w do it.giving consolation arguments that we played better than the other team will not take us anywhere. Do we have the right people to bring in trophy or do we still refuse to get better players while we have money and said no by sticking by the so called philophy which is only words we hear!

Posted by Benjamin Mailu on 10/04/2010

Whatever Wenger is up to, let him know that he cannot afford to disappoint funs this time round.

Posted by Stephen C on 10/04/2010

Arsenal definitely need a world class goalkeeper
not to say that is the only weakness in the battalion but it seem whenever there is no Cesc in the lineup we lose to the top teams like Man U, Chelsea and even Man City.

Another problem is the finishing, this is what separates the ones who take the title from the ones that come second or third and that is what made the difference on Sunday.
Chelsea took the few chances they had and we didn't.
In conclusion, you can out play a side but to win you need to take advantage of the chances you get.

Posted by Bigz on 10/05/2010

I've said it last season and i'll say it again.
Arsen wenger is a scam artist,he's prejudice,
stubborn,this coaching era has past him by.the
club should hire a new coach and bump wenger up
to executive finacial manager,ofcourse he won't
give the new manager anymoney but he will atleast
get rid of diaby,almunia,fabiansky,sagna,and if that lazy arshavin don't buck up get rid of him too.so we lose two in a row and we always beat ourselves when we played birmingham,so thats a draw,then a lost against man city the folowing week.Liverpool here we come to join u in the red zone wow.if only wenger could be honest.

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David Young Sam Limbert: My retirement as a football player came at the age of 14 due to being rubbish, it's fair to say I was more Kaba Diawara than Thierry Henry, so I turned my focus to writing about the game. I'm a lifelong Arsenal fan and have been lucky enough to watch the team across England and Europe. My favourite Gunner of all time is Dennis Bergkamp, and the 2004 Invincibles is the greatest side I've ever seen in English football. I try to be positive about the Arsenal as it's the hope that keeps us going! Follow me on twitter @SamsMatchReport.

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