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Posted by David Young on 08/30/2009

Arsenal's luck was well and truly out at Old Trafford yesterday. Despite looking the far better team for most of the ninety minutes, they hit the bar, had a goal disallowed, were on the wrong end of some rough refereeing decisions and, essentially, gifted United the game with two stupid mistakes.

We were looking for a sign from this team that they are ready to take a step up and prove themselves to be true contenders this season and, for the most part, we got it. Without Cesc Fabregas, the squad's single-most influential player, the Gunners turned in an outstanding performance. They took the game to United, passed the ball better than their hosts and, overall, looked the far more fluent side.

A positive first-half display was capped with a breathtaking goal from Andrey Arshavin to give the Gunners a deserved lead at the break. Only seconds after being denied the stoniest of stone-wall penalties, the diminutive Russian pick up the ball 25 yards from goal and unleashed a fierce drive that Ben Foster in the United goal saw late and couldn’t keep out.

Arsene Wenger’s men started the second half with their tails up and had United on the ropes. The turning point of the match arguably came in this period when Foster made a desperate but brilliant save with his foot from Robin Van Persie. Had the Gunners gone two up at that point, one sensed that the three points would be theirs. As it was, in the 59th minute Wayne Rooney chased a diagonal pass into the penalty area. With the ball heading away from the goal, Manuel Almunia rashly dived at Rooney’s feet and the United striker was only too happy to go down under the slightest contact to earn a penalty. Having been the fortunate recipients of a similar decision on Wednesday night, Arsenal fans could not really complain about the outcome. What was frustrating though was why Almunia felt the need to over-commit himself when the United player had lost control of the ball and was heading towards the corner.

Frustration turned to disbelief five minutes later when, completely unchallenged, Abou Diaby headed a Ryan Giggs freekick into his own net. What was he thinking? I am not even sure he knew. Why, when he was under no pressure, did he presumably elect the ball out for a corner instead of heading it away from goal? It was the sort of poor decision-making that leaves plenty of question marks over Diaby’s true potential. It has often been noted in this column that he looks at his best when Arsenal are on the break but when the team are defending he is a liability. That observation was cruelly underlined yesterday. Overall, he turned in a pretty substandard performance and his catastrophic mistake will hardly help convince those who have their doubts about him. After notching up two goals against Portsmouth, Arsene Wenger likened him to Patrick Vieira but such comparisons are not likely to hold much water until he starts delivering big performances in big matches rather than producing occasional good displays against dire opposition.

Arsenal’s day of exasperation was completed in injury-time when Robin Van Persie netted what seemed to be a last gasp equaliser only to have the goal ruled out for offside in the build-up. The replay later proved the decision was correct but it was still a blow for the Gunners after they had been on the wrong end of many of the refereeing decisions throughout the game.

Six Arsenal players were booked in a match that, whilst being highly competitive, never spilled over into blind aggression. The roughest justice meted out by referee Mike Dean came with the denial of a penalty when Darren Fletcher scythed down Andrey Arshavin in the area just before half-time. How the official could see this as anything other than a penalty beggars belief. All this came on the back of little decisions that had niggled the Gunners throughout the half. For example, how did Antonio Valencia not find his way into the referee’s notebook following three bad early fouls? Also, apart from his blatant foul on Andrey Arshavin, Darren Fletcher made several challenges worthy of a yellow card. He escaped censure and yet Robin Van Persie
got booked for what looked like a perfectly good tackle and Bacery Sagna received the same punishment for complaining about a throw-in. Throughout the afternoon there seemed to be a disparity between what it took to get an Arsenal player carded compared to what it took for a United player to have his name taken.

When considering the performance as whole, there were plenty of good things about the Arsenal display and supporters can take a lot of heart from the fact that the team largely dominated the reigning champions on their own ground. It was a complete reversal of last season’s Champions League semi-final when the Gunners looked entirely second-best in both legs.

Yet again, the new formation worked well with possibly one slight proviso. As talented a player as he is, Robin Van Persie is not suited to playing as lone striker. He is so instinctively left-footed that he is constantly trying to work the ball onto that side. When the team are breaking down the right, this greatly diminishes his effectiveness. A more workable solution might be to allow him to drift out to either wing - where he can work the outside on the left or cut in from the right - and play Nicklas Bendtner as a big target man for the rest of the team to play off. Certainly, one of the Dane’s stronger suits is bringing others into the game and he looks a potentially better option in the lone striker role.

It should also be noted that despite the two errors that led to the United goals, the Arsenal defence looked solid and well-organised. William Gallas and Thomas Vermaelen are starting to build an excellent understanding with the latter in particular producing yet another very impressive display.

What was less pleasing about yesterday’s performance was that the team failed to put Alex Ferguson’s side to the sword when they looked more there for the taking than they have done for years. Unquestionably, Arsenal completely let United off the hook and, consequently, despite the good showing, the result is a massive disappointment.

The Gunners will have the chance to lick their wounds and consider what went wrong over the upcoming international break. Surely though, the key lesson from yesterday’s defeat was that if this team has pretensions of becoming champions they will have to develop a far more ruthless streak and cut down on the individual errors.

In a fortnight, they return to Manchester to take on big-spending City. It will be another stern test and one that the Gunners need to prove they can pass.

Comments

Posted by Maran on 08/30/2009

It is a bitter pill to swallow. It was Arsenal's game for the taking, on a day United were off the pace, and the win was so badly needed, we have lost, in a most unimaginable fashion! A needless penalty and a zombie's goal. Yet it underlines Arsenal's much hidden frailities- reliance on an ordinary goalie, unjustifiable hype about Diaby, and trust in venomless Persie. There must be an end to such blind fainth in Arsenal FC. All the hype about improving young players, whether they are good for the big stage, showed yesterday. They played well, much better than before, but was it good enough? this is a judgement that needs to be delivered at the end of the season. Yet the Manager uses the first few wins to justify that he has a great team. It seems harsh to criticise the team as United had Mike Dean and 2 arsenal players playing for them. But it was more of Arsenal not taking the chances and giving it on the platter for the undeserving United that is hard to swallow.

Posted by c2 on 08/30/2009

Obviously who ever wrote this article must be an arsenal fan and I am not surprised with his perception because this team and their fans are always complaining about match officials, what a shame. How can the writer of this article suggest that arsenal was far better in the match,even though man u was not at there best. He should go back to the match statistics and check how many balls on target for each team. People,especially arsenal fans should start learning how to accept defeat and stop blaming match officials.It was obvious william Gallas was offside in the last attempt and Roney was brought down which lead to the penalty, what else are you guys talking about?

Posted by Ndibe Arinze on 08/30/2009

The truth of the matter is dat the better team lost.Arsenal showed dat dey have matured from last season,just ill luck killed them.
Wenger should no wen to remove a player,diaby is good but holds d ball 2 much.instead of removing him, he took of denilson, which was wrong.The man was tired and heart broken.
What i believe is dat with the performance of yesterday,there are so many positives to take out.i believe that with our display,no team in d league can match them.GO GUNNERS. GO

Posted by Evens on 08/30/2009

Let united fans also say something coz it wz all 4rm fear,ARESENE WENGER hv 2 know dat Diaby is gud player 2 in Aresenal as a club is now becoming aproblem 2 us,he should atlist be taken 2 under 18,Aresenal fans hv 2 know dat we are just starting,let bayuda talk Arsenal iz big,des iz home and away so man u fans should not say much.ARSENAL 4EVER

Posted by Denford Halimani on 08/30/2009

Mr Mike Dean had a terrible game. Believe you me, the cumulative errors by the referee ultimately cost Arsenal. The Rooney 'penalty' incident.The Darren Fletcher tackle or is it handball on Arshavin. Inexplicable inconsistences on bookings between the two sides. The ultimate humiliation of Mr Wenger by both the referee and his lines man and Man Utd fans. One gets the impression that if it was United that had 'scored' the disallowed goal by Van Persie, they as well have gotten the benefit of the doubt given the referee's overall performance, which I rate at 2 out of 10. Perhaps Mr Dean was appointed by UEFA to even things up and make amends for Wednesday night's phantom penalty to Eduardo. I also hope to God that it is not part of a wider conspiracy-Mr Wenger would say-witch hunt, against the slick passing, free scoring Londoners. Sometimes the leaugue is won and lost by these seemingly 'harmless' mistakes by referees. By the end of the season the damage is already done.

Posted by joshua kituku nzangi on 08/30/2009

i have come to realise M United is being favoured very much but one time they will regret.arsenal Fan. Why is it easy for M U to be given a penalty than the opponent team very annoying.

Posted by AZ Alk on 08/30/2009

I strongly believe that some players in Arsenal ranks are not there yet to perform on the big stage. Perhaps against less stronger teams, this player will not be edgy & will play their game.

Abou Diaby has never been a player that is able to command the midfield role.

The English game is very much physical & fast.

Abou Diaby is not a player of this sort. He sometimes 'dream' while on the ball. This can be very frustrating to the team mates when possession is lost.

Please Monsieur Wenger, have a heart, don't play the small kids in the big boys game.

I do believe in yesterday game,Alex Song or Aaron Ramsey would have been a better candidate to play in place of Diaby.

There is nothing to do with luck.

Referreeing decision depends on the club some individuals support. You can't deny that referee are humans too. They have their teams which they support.

Posted by Berg on 08/30/2009

drop Persie & Diaby. Eboue is a better defensive player, must cut out his diving. Too late to sign new players, 6 points behind with one game in hand

Posted by This Guy on 08/30/2009

I do not think that Diaby, apart from the own goal and the one poor finish, had a bad game at all. In fact, he was brilliant at times going forward. The team looked great, although missing arguably their best player. The only thing that I do not understand is why, Eduardo is crucified for diving, while others get away free. In other games this week, there were horrendous dives that were not even noticed. But Eduardo is facing suspension? I also would like to comment on Arsene Wenger's hilarious mockery of the sending off. I have even more respect after that display. Almunia really does need to go and Arsenal need to find another keeper to replace the once great Lehman. It seems to me that Almunia never had the skill set to be great. He gets beat from 40 meters on free kicks, he does not always command the box, he makes rash decisions, and I for one am tired of it and I'm sure Gallas and the rest are too. They put in great performances each week and only one clean sheet for there effort

Posted by azroy on 08/30/2009

So sad we had a goalkeeper like Almunia. Rooney's first touch was so poor so he could thank Almunia for getting him down. As a team full with 'kids' this was the last thing we expect from the senior member.And I think Van Persie can't play as a lone striker,target man,center forward or whatever you call it. He can't defend the ball, easily brought down by the defenders and he can't do his primary mission-scoring.I think he may be perfectly suit as a winger and Bendtner can fill Van Persie's position

Posted by Ralph on 08/30/2009

Arsenal can create openings but cannot finnish them.
CLEARLY what they need is a FORWARD who can PUT THE BALL IN THE NET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arsene, get him NOW, you have just 24 hours.
I am sure that you have a name ready !
So, get get him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by MDD1473 on 08/30/2009

Arshavin continues to be the outside (as well as inside) the box threat that Arsenal needs to spread defenses. The Gunners had Man U on the ropes and were denied points due to bad luck and bad decisions. Alex Ferguson himself would admit to as much no doubt. Arsenal out passed, out paced and out played Man U and this was without the likes of Fab 4 and Theo. This team AS IS needs to stay healthy and they need their starmen (Mr Rosicky, are you listening???!) to lock in and get game reps. Mr Wenger has raised the bar and expectation so high that 4th place is considered a failure. Nice problem to have given that the highest priced player they've ever bought was 14mil...They will get theirs and they will do it with the squad they have...In Wenger I trust.

Posted by Ando on 08/31/2009

you Gonner fans complain about everything...cry me a river!! Sure Arsenal was the better side on the day, but let’s not forget that we had a few Man Utd players out injured & lost our prized possession. Pick on Rooney or Fletcher....end result is Almunia brought Rooney down; Eboue’s cheeky dive earned him a yellow. How easily you all forget. All your fancy football doesn’t get u anywhere, 4 years & counting.
When Arsenal had the chance they should have finished us off i.e. Fosters save on Van Persie. So we had a few calls go our way, it’s not like u’ve never been there!!!!!
Dave Young can write what he pleases; however being bias towards Man Utd & one sided will only leave the Gonners wondering what happened...United
P.S. The trophies keep coming...long live United

Posted by sarkee on 08/31/2009

To c2, probably you're new to this blog, but David Young IS an Arsenal fan, so your first
line was an unnecessary confirmation. Next, he agreed that Gallas WAS offside, leading to
the 2nd goal being disallowed, so thanks for your "concurrence" once again.

Coming back to the game proper, this is how I always feel when we play:

Overjoy, when we win while playing exhiliratingly;
Massive relief followed by concern, when we play badly and yet win;
Indignationt/Comfort, when we play well yet lose;
Pure concern, when we play badly and lose.

On Sat, it was Indignant/Comforted. Indignant, for having lost a game we were so in control
of (I'm not going into any ref-related comments, except one); comforted, in knowing what we
are capable of. Nonetheless, it's tinged with some concern too. It's one thing to play well,
but quite something else to finish off opponents.

Posted by sarkee on 08/31/2009

Not all is lost though. We have to regroup, recover, and prep ourselves much much more
before the next trip to Manchester, in less than 2 weeks' time. We have to rise from the ashes
of this defeat, come back stronger than ever, and show all doubters what we're capable of.
It's time to put all talk of potential to rest, and instead show what this potential is, week-in and -out.

Lastly, my sole ref-related comment. It's plain to all and sundry that the sending-off of AW was
a farce. Even the BPL ref chief saw that. The apology that Arsene will be receiving is the clearest
vindication yet.

Posted by steven on 08/31/2009

mike dean had the most shocking games ive ever watched in my years as a epl fan.. the so called old-traffordish calls game out to play again in another big game allowing Man Utd to sneak another underserved win against a total dominant Arsenal team. when are the referees going to allow two juggernauts of the epl to play there normal style of soccer.. the game was a breathless end to end fast paced typical english. but mike dean made a mockery of the game i can remember about 10 15 calls that should have went the other way including the 100% obvious penalty on arshavin what is it bout referees not giving penaltys to Arsenal???. rooney was falling before almunia touched him even though the call to come out of his box was a stupid call my almunia. arsenal were brave in defence n showed great strength but once again ran out of luck n man u well there luck never seems to run out

Posted by sam on 08/31/2009

There is no team that has ever benefited from penalties like utd while genuine penalties against it are denied.Utd has started to harvest from penalties and count how many they will get and how many will be denied against them by the end of the season.Match officials might once again hand over a win to utd this season.The question is are these match officials not pernishable? Its really absurd to have utd supporters as match officials. Im not arsenal supporter but i was not happy because such bad refreeing denied my team a win last season.

Posted by AZ Alk on 08/31/2009

Well guys, Arsenal have had its up & down last season.

This season, it is fortunate that Arsenal was awaken from its amplify opening season glory.

Before walking the big step to claim the coveted prize , ie , the BARCLAYS Premier League trophy, this Arsenal kids needs to know how it feels to be down.

Let's hope they can bounce back from this setback with a more determine ambition , not to be kick around anymore by the BIG BOYS.

Arsenal, prove to those who has defected & call the club with all the negatives. Let them eat their words, as this is the only way to show that you're among the elite.

For Diaby , do accept the fact that you need more support from your team when on the field. You cannot just play your game, it must be a Team game..

Arshavin, you've been a revelation squad this season. Your guidance to this youngsters just like the great LIAM BRADY, will help the club to its cause.

Team Arsenal, take defeat in the face. Be a MAN!

Posted by George Wilson on 08/31/2009

Sadly, as an Arsenal supporter, Arsenal lost the game. The fact is that the 3 points were awarded to Manchester United. I challenge any Manchester United supporter to justify the injustices committed by Mike Dean. I have come to believe that these injustices will kill the English game just like the bribery scandals did to Italian football. A brief look at last season's game btn Spurs and Man U smells of similar foul play. Spurs had United 2-0, and an official awarded the penalty. That game sent Liverpool out of the race. Arsenal may not be angels, but without refrees helping Man U, I doubt how many of the 18 titles you would have. It appears the name Mike works for United, Mike Dean and Mike Riley are good at awarding dubious penalties and cards against other teams United plays against. PROVE ME WRONG ANY MAN U SUPPORTER.

Posted by Hillary Maps on 08/31/2009

Better luck next time.I am sure we have taken our lesson.Once we have a team on the back foot lets kill the game off or else we will be subjected to such results always.The Gunners have to shift attention to other games and shy away from these controvesies and publicicty which may derail our season.I am sure the old trafford saga cannot be reversed and we have to move on.Come on Gunners, we ccan only get better.

Posted by Maran on 08/31/2009

This game is not only a bitter pill to swallow, it had also had left a lousy aftertaste. Mike Dean had a big part in this. He encouraged the United players to tackle hard and shake the Gunners, by turning a blind eye, sometimes two to clear fouls. The sending off of the respected manager was so humiliating to English football. But to add salt to the wound, the Gunners spectacularly dug their grave. The manager was also obstinately faithful with some undeserving individuals. And somehow Arsenal always lose to Man U in dramatic fashions. Remember the breaking of the unbeaten record, and the pizzagate fracas? Why cannot for once we humiliate Man U. That requires sort of sporting vengeance in the ranks. Arsenal players need a dose of that so that we can come back stronger. I just hope they regroup and improve. Arsenal players of late do not have a habit of responding well, rather love to slide after someone stops them in their strides, especially Man U. This is the most crucial test

Posted by Moffat on 08/31/2009

Even if the referree was bad to Arsenal, the gunners cannot afford to give away cheap goals the way Diaby and Almunia did.Almunia must know that a touch on opposing player in the box is a straight penalty,Diaby should know that day dreaming in a big game is not acceptable.Wenger should not force Diaby to be Vieira. With Players like Diaby Arsenal has a long way to win any trophy (Leave alone the EPL).

Posted by sam on 08/31/2009

Its done to arsenal but it affects all other teams that are hopeful to win. For example the three points awarded to utd by Mike Dean will put Liverpool, Chelsea, Mancester city and any other team to a disadvantage leaving utd to seal through.All teams should wake up and fight these utd supporters who officiate matches. The penalty that was denied to arsenal and in minutes a penalt given to utd is absurd.Not only that, so many yellow cards to arsenal side, desallowing a goal by Persie and sending off Wenger are all unpresant situations created in favour of utd. Persie was not offside thats why he chose not to give the ball to Gallas and shot it himself but the officials had already decided. Watch how many goals like this will be allowed especially if they are for utd as the competition goes on!!!!!!!!!

Posted by maxmosleay on 08/31/2009

From Mombasa Kenya,Really disappointed by 1)referee- he 'killed' arsenal's play by not officiating fairly 2)Lack of proper coordination /./ asenal's midfield and forwards 3)Not so solid (psychological?)a defence that is arsenal. Please guys, play a game that we know it's yours.

Posted by Terry Lim on 08/31/2009

I feel that Arsenal was the better team on the night, and that the referee had an off day - he should not have given the penalty because it was clear that Rooney would not have been able to control the ball anyway - he was looking to get fouled and unfortunately Alumnia over committed himself.

I say this as a fan of Chelsea - Arsenal should have won, or at least come away with a point for their effort. Man U may have the referee gods on their side this time round - but I hope Arsenal sock it to Man U when they next meet again.

Posted by Anonymous on 08/31/2009

I propose Mike Dean for the best refree award and be put on the Man U Board immediately for his fine performance.

Posted by evans elemi on 08/31/2009

up gunners 4 ever,i see the game as noting 2 cry 4 ,b/cos already it was fix.back 2 d drawing board,wenger should go 4 chamack and an alternative 4 daiby to strugle 4 a shirt b/cos he contributed in d game 4 utd 2 win.for the defence i tink they are ready 4 d league.i remain a gunner 4 life

Posted by Craig on 08/31/2009

Wenger and the Arsenal apologists need to stop making so many excuses. Fans of Wenger always pat him on the back for getting rid of players like Henry and Viera but he never replaced them. The 'kids' are soft and don't have any heart. Once they fell behind they predictably fell a part. Wenger needs some veterans because older players are tougher. Look at Arshavin, by far the team's best player. He came to Arsenal with some experience. Contrast him with Fabregas, who gets hurt every time the wind blows and was once again absent for a key game.

Time for Wenger to go. Another year without silverware is on the way. I love the Gunners but they are going no where fast and people got too excited over them beating overmatched teams to start the season.

Posted by stevo on 08/31/2009

These might be forth time EPL center REf's give United stupid spot kicks from diving and booking Arsenal players anyhow when look at the fools made Arsenal hard less but high in bookimg when will EPL come in toour rescue.

Posted by george m.wanyama on 08/31/2009

go,go,and go wenger u r the best coach in england only the reffees r the onces against u, the team is ok and this time we can see the big trophy

Posted by Bryan Rabathaly on 08/31/2009

I am an arsenal fan and I say FIFA should revise the offside rule cause most officials do not understand the rule.Recently i saw a game and the goals were mostly scored while the player was behind the defense when the ball was passed. I still see this same thing happening conveniently. Yes Gallas was behind the defender but the ball was not in motion towards him until the defense collapsed around him.(judge it) but the whistle blew. lets retrain these officials and get the game back to the players not the bookies

Posted by isidore on 08/31/2009

well, sometimes football as life can be cruel,there is nothing we can do lest it weighs us down lets continue to remain focused on the remaining matches.Even 1000 Mike Deans and his confused 4th official can stop us GUNNERS 4 LIVE

Posted by Nahabwe Ronald on 08/31/2009

c2,I know you wrote on this blog with all the euphoria of your team having won a game out not of their brilliance but sheer luck.I will beg you to make a flashback on many of Furgie's post match comments in matches his team loses.
He will blame every ref's decision for the opponents,tell you how player so and so should have been red carded,blah,blah blah.............
But lets not dwell on that.Arsenal lost to one of the title opponents, 3 matches played one lost.
How the players wake up from this loss will have a huge bearing on the final outcome of the season.
If some thing positive is to be done the entire team have to develop a mentality of playing a 38-match season not showing up in individual matches,.Almunia, Diaby pull up pliz 2 save us from further tears.
Thumbs up Arshavin,Vamaleen,
new look Gallas and co
All Gunners keep heart.

Posted by Lumix on 08/31/2009

Relax fellow gunnerz its just one loss, the team played well, diaby in one of his best performances ever was just unlucky. we will all be smiling after smacking that adebayor city. peace

Posted by Tom S15 on 08/31/2009

I was wondering what you guys think of the following:

Everyone is talking about Almunia's rash decision for the penalty but I have not heard anyone yet question why Gallas left the ball, unless he received a call by Almunia, it was an easy interception for a player of his quality. I wonder whether he even realised Rooney was coming?

Secondly; I agree that Arsenal were the better team up until the point we conceded the second goal. We were awful from that point on, the heads had visibly dropped, we stopped closing people down (at any point on the pitch) and Wenger seems to make the worst substitutions ever.

Wenger dispensed with any vestiges of width when he took Arshavin off and brought Ramsey on, who struggled to get into the game on the left of the midfield. I can only assume we went 4.3.3 but I could not tell.

I can understand why Wenger is protecting Wilshire but he would have offered us the width needed when he took Arshavin off. He also has the talent to cause trouble.

Posted by millionfingers on 08/31/2009

the impression we get from certain referees is that the FA operates based on double standards. sadly enough, these things keep repeating themselves every season, fans pour out their grieviances, yet nothing ever seems to be done.
when, if ever, will this stop, and allow the beauty we all know to return to football?

Posted by korwai on 09/01/2009

"Persie was not offside thats why he chose not to give the ball to Gallas and shot it himself but the officials had already decided" so was there an offside in this situation?
can someone explain? im confused... thks!
go arsenal!!!

Posted by Patrick Mmifinyana on 09/01/2009

I personally belief that inspite of the unwarranted loss to Man U, Arsenal have proven that they are now ready to pose serious challenges for honours this season. The team is relatively young compared to all premier league teams. Even though they are young, they are already very experienced players cos almost all in the team that played Man U have played in very big matches. So the the Arsenal supportes, I can only say you wait and u will see the young team unfolding into a a formidable force and winning a trophy this season. I have seen the players maturing over the last few yrs and they are now mature. Just wait for trophieds this season.

Posted by lockdown12 on 09/01/2009

David-I agree about Van Persie being better suited on the wings, and I was wondering why Bendtner was put out there. But taking note of some of the really good crosses Bendtner contributed (one a near goal for Eduardo) and remembering Bendtner's lackluster finishing has me thinking somebody other than him should be the target man.

Posted by ibrahim jega on 09/01/2009

its realy unthinkable idea for arsenal to go through the seasone without right striker, Infact, Vanperse cant make it.off course,he cant.
Diaby is another liability in the team who always prove to be useless.

Posted by denzil on 09/01/2009

i believe 100% in what wenger is doing and yes his kids are still young they will grow up and we will have the invincibles again the defense is also one of the major improvements this season and lets be fair to arsene he does not believe in buying championships

Posted by Kenny on 09/01/2009

I'm an Arsenal supporters. The result against MU was difficult to accept. I saw the whole 94 minutes and clearly my team Arsenal is the better team. Even manager Alex Ferguson will agree to that. Arsenal are clearly outclass, outplay and outstanding than United. If V.Persie put the ball on the net before Rooney score the penalty, i guess it will be hard for United to come back from 2-0 down.
Well anyway, Arsenal can take this lost better then United and go on after 2 weeks of international break coming back and beat the likes of Man City. Star player Fabregas and Walcort need to come back QUICKLY. The next game will be crucial especially Man City is surely lining up tevez and adebayor up front which the togo forward are former arsenal player. It will be interesting to see the match. I'm hoping for a 2-0 win for my team Arsenal. Fabregas will return with a BANG and V.Persie will score this time!!!For adebayor, return against his old teamates, i've only 1 word to say to him - Sorry!
:)

Posted by keem on 09/01/2009

ole gunners keep the faith. Arsenal will excel this season. Gunners 4 life

Posted by Olasteph on 09/01/2009

It really disappointing on saturday,Diaby is a calamitous player while on the pitch, but, i think Ramsey will be better than him.For Wenger, he should stop building a team for France, that is why he so much believe in french guys. pls, pair a player with Van persie.

Posted by Emeka Obi Esq., Lagos. on 09/01/2009

It is a pity we lost this match which we should have won comfortably, but for two silly errors. Arsenal fans should take consolation in the fact that the match was completely different from the two-leg semi finals of the Champions league last season, in which Man U dominated us in the two encounters. However, to show that Arsenal have come of age, we must get three points on 12 Sept. at Man City. Anything short of that, will leave us in a tall order to win the Premier League. Finally, the transfer market closes today, and it is amazing that Wenger is yet to deal again. After watching Man U/Arsenal game I am of the opinion that we need a deadly striker in the class of Chamarkh, but Wenger knows best and I hope he will not regret before the end of December, 2009. In Wenger we trust.

Posted by Salikin on 09/01/2009

Arsenal lost because luck was not on their side, dubious decisions and judgement by the match officials, careless unthinkable mistakes and missing of key players on important matches. Time for those on the bench to buck up and get fit. Weaker teams are improving, playing better and winning matches despite not having studded players. Losing after playing so well is difficult to swallow. Time for the players to reflect on how to win remaining matches at stake and look on the bright side. Damage is done anyway! Fans will still be supporting!

Posted by Trevor on 09/01/2009

To all the Gunners don't worry the season is ours.What does not kill us makes us stronger.Early lessons learnt.Next time and for the rest of the League things are going to start happening,this lost just trigured us to really be title winners.
So relax we coming guys.

Posted by through_ball on 09/01/2009

@c2, what are you talking about? utd fan, this is an arsenal post, so sulk somewhere else...the gunners were better than manu...i won't blame the refrees..its a defeat..still to come out and say united were the better team is a blatant lie

Posted by Ndowa on 09/01/2009

I never understand what is wrong with Arsenal side, they had the chance to beat Man U again in the second half, what is currently missing is be capable of playing rough footbal like what Man u did. Let wait for MU to come at Emirate......show them how to be strong even when the referee will be on their side.

Posted by MU fan. on 09/01/2009

Indeed, Man United should not have won. BUT, have u all ever wondered, if one day, the referee sides Arsenal, and Arsenal won, do you think you all will crap so much about it? Come on, life is never fair, nor in EPL. And, all you all did was to say that the referee was unfair, and blame everything on it. IF you all was truly that powerful, you all still, should have won. Stop complaining, because life's like that. To:Through_ball Hey, get a stupid life, whats wrong with commenting on other teams's post. Gunners better than Man Utd? Wait till next year's may and we will see. Arsenal wont last long in the god form they are in. Anyway, peace to all the Arsenal fans, if you do not like my post, ignore it, alright?
Man Utd Forever.

Posted by Einar on 09/01/2009

You say correctly that the late goal was offside but you still complain and say that even though it was a correct decision the referee should have allowed the goal just because they deserved it? There is something seriously wrong with your way of making arguments.
You also say that the penalty was dubious like the one awarded to Eduardo. How can you compare a "penalty" were the goalkeeper didn't even touch the player and a penalty where it is obvious contact between player and goalkeeper? Is there any discussion going on about wether Rooney should be banned for diving? There is no denying that Rooney was looking for the penalty and there is no denying that the decision to give it was right, the only ones I have heard saying the opposite are Arsenal supporters.
But I agree with you on the fact that Arsenal should have been awarded a penalty for the Fletcher foul.

Posted by Malcolm Cook on 09/01/2009

Arsenal were the better team on the day, the ref was poor, it amazes me that automatically its a penalty at Old Trafford, game after game! Diving, that's a joke Rooney would never dive! Diaby's own goal was pathetic. Arshavin is a class player and will get better and better. Van Persie has skill, but can't finish and cannot link in well enough to pass on a regular basis, he couldn't even clean Bergkamp's boots! Vermaelen looks like a quality player with intelligence and I agree that Wiltshire has to play, he is too good to get splinters on the bench.The Man U result was a disappointment, but not the end of the world,although it seemed like it on saturday!
Eduardo may be the best bet instead of Van Persie,because he is an out and out finisher, so put all the players on the field that can pass a ball, that means no Bendtner,Eboue, Diaby,Van Persie and Ramsey.That means Arsene Wenger squad is not good enough, doesn't it! Not to win the Premiership anyway!

Posted by Justice Bon on 09/01/2009

Its an open issue.The REF contributed to the faillure of THE GUNNERS.No need for unnecessary voieces.Th Gunners have got a future,yes probably the Only TEAM in Champions League with young talented players.The first two opening games have already shown dat The Gunners have A PURPOSE this season.No need to blame DIABY,he is a GOOD STUFF,he only needs to be cautioned to improve otherwise ARSENAL FANS will be fade up with his UNWELCOME perfomance.Its a total lie dat THE GUNNERS wont last LONG.The LADS have gained vast experience from LAST SEASON GAMES.A caution to WENGER-The GUNNERS striking force needs to be sharpened and remain AGGRESSIVE at all times rather than just exchanging unnecessary passes.Only if this problem is solved,then defenately this SEASON can remain -A HARVESTING TIME FOR WENGER.

Posted by gabe on 09/01/2009

although we did not take out man u when we had the multiple opportunities to, you cannot say the referee was clearly on the man u side. i am still proud the gunners, and it is completely obvious we were the better team in this match. go Arsenal!

Posted by jonnel on 09/01/2009

@mu fan, remember our last game at OT, last May n u we'r not better either? This was Arsenal away, outplaying MU without Walcott, Nasri, Rosicky n most importantly, Fabregas! U wait for May!!! All I said after the game was, Arsene should get Diaby a psychologist. He didnt get all this insults after his brace against Pompey. I believe in him still, but Almunia's so ****in unreliable! Dont bliv Arsene didnt get at least 1 more player :( but, let's let d season roll on, we will not b trophyless this one. Gunner till 6ft under!

Posted by Maran on 09/02/2009

Now that the Transfer deadline is over, we can rest assured that Arsenal is the team as it is. For all the hope that we have in the team, it was apparent that we needed reinforcement. Not because we want to buy the championship, but because it was necessary to build a strong team. The gaps were exposed in the last two seasons and Arsene had rightfully brought in Arshavin and Vermaelen. Both proved to be good deals. Hence we continue to have faith in Arsene. But should Arsene wait for the end of season to see that this was not enough? A strong midfielder and a true striker are needed to bolster the current team. But the management thinks otherwise. We have not much choice now but to hope that the current players give in 100% throughout the season. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. At the moment that would be the key to success for Arsenal.

Posted by Ando on 09/02/2009

Reading these posts makes me laugh!!!! we MAN U fans differ, cause we take one on the chin and move on to a trophy....while u Gonner fans keep looking for a scapegoat....spend the money - win the league....sorry to say, but young talent will not get u there....for the past 4 years we've been listing to the same old record play....time to man up.....MAN U FOR LIFE!!!
“Be the change you want to see in the world.” as Mahatma Gandhi once said best

Posted by Steven Chong on 09/02/2009

Arsenal practically outplayed Manchester United for 90 minutes. Arsenal can be proud of themselves for displaying some breathtaking football at United's home turf. Despite such masterful performance from a maturing side, Arsenal still lacks the ruthlessness required to put United to bed. Van Persie has got to be blame for not smashing the ball into the net less than 3 yard away from goal, at the start of the second half.

Time and time again, and season after season, Manchester United has been favored by referees, especially at home. This is the main reason how Manchester United could manage to win 16 titles under Fergi. More than often, we read from the press that referees circum to the atmosphere at Old Trafford to favor the home team. An official apology was extended by Chief of referee to Arsene Wenger for sending to the stands. The chief of referee should be spending his time to rectify such one sided refereeing in favor of Manchester United.

Posted by lacie on 09/02/2009

lol ando these posts make me laugh too. i dumped my ex-boyfriend last week because he bored me to death with football. he is african and now i can see why he hung out here as nearly all the comments are african. hey dum dum if you are reading this: there is nothing sadder than a middle-aged man who thinks football is anything more than a temporary escape. have fun hanging out here with the loser who writes this blog and the losers who leave their pointless comments. like you they clearly have no life or at least nothing worth writing about.

Posted by clif on 09/02/2009

i think the team played very well and it is not good if we are to blame diaby for that mistake . from my analysis i think this season we are going to finish in the top two with only The Blues posing the great threat to our journey to the trophy. i know Arsene and his guys will overcome the loss to UTD and the dubiuos decisions by UEFA to suspend Eduardo when the goalkeeper`s thigh hit the studs of Eduardo. its a sheme on Platini.
arsenal yesterday, arsenal now , asreanal forever

Posted by francis nyanje on 09/02/2009

forget about the past and focus on the remaining matches.

Posted by Komesha on 09/02/2009

I am Arsenal Damu and have faith in the team. Whatever happens we still have 35 games to go. Make sure we do not loose so stupidly. I agree the Ref can contribute to a team loosing but that i where we require players to mature psychologically since it will always happen again and again. Stick to the match plan and improve/invent on the pitch. i have seen several chances wasted on the pitch. If Arshavin can score from 25 yards out, why not Vanparsy or the BAR-Tender(coz he is brainless).
Wanger should keep the style and the boys should not expect any mercy from the Ref or their opponents, that is life, so cruel that the fit survives.
Advice to the boys, keep your leg away b4 they break it. when they get too rough, get some tricks from basket ball players how to deter an opponent from getting dangerously too close. release the ball quickly and create space to receive a pass.
We will win the EPL this season.Arsen is the best Coach ever.

Posted by PacificGooner on 09/03/2009

well lady luck wasnt on our side today, but we really cant complain that much. in the first leg against celtic we got a goal off of Gallas' back and then they put it through their own net.

Posted by Glenn on 09/03/2009

I'm a neutral fan so have no axe to grind other than to want to laugh at those that blame the ref. Overall, Dean had a good game and to blame him for the outcome is simply making excuses and looking for scapegoats. If Arsenal couldn't bury the multitude of chances they had (legally) then they only have themselves to blame. And as for the own goal, hell, he was like a startled rabbit in the headlights, frozen to the spot. It was like he had no idea what he should do and the ball just hit the side of his head. Best laugh I had all day. :)

Posted by Slayer on 09/03/2009

This match prove that MU would do anything to stay at top of the league... Though the way is disrespected by others... Arsenal is the best team that I can see during the stat of the season, it should last...

Posted by usman m. ali on 09/03/2009

arsene wenger! you are a good coach despite you gamble with our games... but try as much as possible to over come all these kind of manchester's shadow marking,physical tackling etc, nothing about them is real, the manchester players are full of fake tack ticks so they are not going away with what they did on saturday 29/8/09 the day of reckoning has come!FIFA must bring these refrees to book for justice... mike dean, mike riley and steve benett. especially mike dean!GUNNERS FOR LIFE. merci....

Posted by Tari O on 09/03/2009

What is it about Man U and penalties. refs have been fixing matches for Man U for a long time now. Take out all the penalties in favor of Man U last year and see if they truly won the cup.

Posted by antony (blair) on 09/03/2009

This was an exellent performance but bcoz of poor officiating,and wenger fielding some inexperience players like diaby we lost three points that we really have deserved.all the effort that ashavin had used were reduced to nothing by that tall flimsy and inexperience france lad.in fact am a die hard arsenal fun but i would like wenger to know whom to play when.
To me this was ashame.

Posted by MU fan. on 09/04/2009

Hey, come on Arsenal fans. I know you hate Man utd, but, please use your eyes. Rooney is seriously a very honest player, how could he dive just for a penalty? He's not Ronaldo. Indeed, I agree with Glenn. So what if the referee did not give you a penalty, while he gave us one? Yes, you all outplayed us, but in the end, you all should only blame Diaby for the own goal rite? Look at Arshavin, he saw the chance, and he shoots, and it went in. It was a wonderful goal, no one could deny it. Even if you all outplayed us, its only Arshavin who perform really well right? And, one of you said that Arsenal is the only team in Champions League who have young talented players. Barca has Bojan, Manutd has Obetan, Macheda, Welbeck, Gibson, Rafael, Fabio, Pogba? We have no young talents? You gotta be kidding huh?
Man Utd forever.

Posted by Adebayo abidemi on 09/04/2009

To me all what i know is that Manchester United are always buy refree, is not a new thing to me, i remember last season when man u is always using penalty to win some small clubs and they will go away with that three point and others big club are not enjoing that. All what i belief is that Man U is not my problem in premiership. i belief they are goin to face some big club in premiership, they will still come back to emirate when all my injuries players will return, Guners fans MAN U lost against Burnley lost three point we also lost against MAN

Posted by john machupa on 09/04/2009

surely, when will arsenal and there wenger accept defeat,always officiating as a scapegoat.
shame on you all

Posted by Joe on 09/04/2009

Match statistics mean nothing. The first half was tight, with Arsenal edging it in my opinion. And in the second half Arsenal were at their best right before both United goals and still looked the better side from there on out despite the morale-destroying nature of both goals.

This article is spot on.

Posted by Parthiban Krishnan on 09/05/2009

That was a game where Arsenal could have beaten Man U well nicely but they gave it away very cheaply........... Didn't expect that even in dreams.....

on the other hand Eduardo has been made a scapegoat by Mr. Platini's UEFA.They did not do all these before but now they are calling themselves to be very strict............. its a like a "conspiracy Theory"........... its like Platini is against all English clubs personally..........

Posted by Samuel Cham on 09/05/2009

After the 59th minutes of play, Diaby has missed a lot of goals simplily needed a change but wenger did not and he made the worse mistake, a clear change for him just to put smile after that mistake shows how unlucky he was in that match, so wenger needed no change Diaby on or before that mistake.

Posted by TPSS on 09/07/2009

Why not AW used Arshavin as a striker coz he is skillful and both of his feet can be use. Not like VP, only use his left foot. What do you think AW...????

Posted by Azm on 09/08/2009

MU Fans, Rooney is not a seriously honest player. Rooney used to dive and given penalty by ref during the match with Arsenal, at that time Sol Campbell was the defender, Sol try to take the ball and he pull back his leg, and without any contact, Rooney dive in and given penalty by ref. This is the good example for the "seriously a very honest player"...

You are right about MU and Barca which have young talentet player. I believe all teams in the world they have their own young talented players. But, in other team compare to Arsenal, are they (young talented player) always in the starting XI?? How many games they play in one season, even Macheda, Bojan, Welbeck, Kakuta, didn't start the match or even come out from the bench to the pitch..

Posted by George Mwangy on 09/08/2009

It is said that Winners are lucky but CHAMPIONS create they on LUCK....Could it be that ARSEnal's loss 2 MANCHESTER UNITED was a manifestation of this? ARSENAL shaded the possession statistics & clear cut opportunities 2 score, then what happened?
ARSENAL is a good youthful team but they need some experience among their ranks...

Posted by Ogunkoya Adebayo on 09/09/2009

Don't let us put blame on Arsene Wenger for the fixture used against the Red Devils, though it was very painful seeing us lose against them. We all clearly seen that the referee was bias, maybe they want the Red Devils to have the victory on the match. I was not happy as well seeing Diaby playing 90 minutes game, after his mistake of the lone goal, chances is not on his side to revenge back, but I believe a substition over him could have change the game, but still, we thank God and see clearly that we (ARSENAL FC) were robbed on the goal scored at exact 92 minutes. Be a gooner, be a gunner. Gunner for life.

Posted by MU Fan. on 09/09/2009

To Azm: Perhaps, i am wrong about Rooney, being a honest player. But, I think you are alittle wrong with the part where you said about the youths. Indeed, Arsenal has many young talented player who are always in the the starting XI. So what? This only shows that Arsenal wants the youngsters to learn from the matches and let them excel. But let me ask you, do you think that, the youngsters will want to be in a team, where almost the whole team are youngsters, and they hardly wins any trophy? Let me tell you, if you all do not win any trophies this year, say bye bye to Fabregas. Macheda hardly plays, but he's only 17, he has many chances to play, and, he was the one who saved Man Utd title. Bojan does play, even with Messi and Henry around. Welbeck plays more games than Macheda, and Kakuta, he was injured, and now when he recovers, he faces a 4 month ban. Youngsters in other clubs does not play as much as Arsenal because they have many players who are in the peak form.
Man Utd Forever.

Posted by AKINWUMI AUGUSTINE on 09/09/2009

You shouldnt be surprised at the officiating. Any team playing against United particularly at the old Trafford are playing one man dowm(I mean 12 against 11) United will always combine the referee to make their players 12. On that particular match, I have Arsene to blame because of his stinginess which make his team full of inexperience players, infact their nervouseness cost them the match.

Posted by olu on 09/10/2009

we played very well to the very end and we decerved at least a draw united add motherluck which saw defeat Asenal and also poor refering caused us the game

Posted by Tim on 09/11/2009

Will Cesc be fit for man city

Posted by nklo on 09/12/2009

"Good is the Enemy of Great". Arsenal is a good side. Because of the fact that they know they are a good side, they will continue their ways...overtime, they will fall. Thence, they will change their ways, and maybe they have a chance to become a great side again. That is life!!!

Posted by Parthiban Krishnan on 09/12/2009

Its typical almunia again.... He should be the corner stone for the team this time around but failed to do so........... To my opinion Mr. Wenger should change him because he brings the imbalance to the team at this time around.......... Should have offloaded him to some Spanish clubs....... He is suitable there.... I can't remember the last time he kept claen sheet. Being an ARSENAL fan myself I'm totally disappointed with the way he played tonight......But all is not lost cause its just the beginning of the season and we are so used to pacesetters with big ambitions that fades as the season progress. To the Devil's fans, you still have to pay a visit to Emirates.... Maybe just maybe on that day you will be known as "DWARFS" we shall wait for your visit then..As for the man city fans, please don't be like a "FLASH IN THE PAN"

Posted by JK on 09/13/2009

Hey I watched the rooney penalty replay and he appeared to go to ground even before almunia made contact.Talk about eduardo?

Posted by Jonathan on 09/13/2009

Hello,
I really dont want to comment about the United or Man city match.I want to comment on the Wenger general approach to matches and i hope he reads this.
Is Walcott injured?Why is Eduardo sitting on the bench?If Rosicky was that fit yesterday what is Diaby or Denilson doing on the pitch.I really dont understand Wenger philosophy again.I used to be one of his die hard supporters but i am beginning to question his idealogy.
I need to watch Arsenal matches and go home happy or at least satisfied.I am heartbroken.
Why didnt he buy Chamakh?Because he wants to get him as a free agent in january window.What use is he then?The same thing that happened with Arshavin.We need these players in the champion's league but NO my dear Wenger wont buy.41million pounds from adebayor and toure and still no transfer action from him.
Wenger i truely beleive in your philosophy and ideas but you need to move with the time.....add some established players to your pool of talents and see what happens..

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